Bandleader Has No Clue

martinmcfly · #1 08-25-2011, 08:33 AM

Worst Drummer I've Ever Played With - YouTube

bassmonkeee · #2 08-25-2011, 10:04 AM

I was listening to it thinking, "That's not so bad." And, then...it was much worse.

LowDown Hal · #3 08-25-2011, 10:07 AM

huh?
what?

anyone know a good place to get my computer sound board fixed?
it MUST be broken

Spinal Tapper · #4 08-25-2011, 10:09 AM

why'd the rest of the band bail on the drummer when he started messing up? that just made things sound 10x's worse. they should've kept playing, not stare at him like an idiot.

it's pretty obvious he hasn't been playing long.

turbo chicken · #5 08-25-2011, 10:11 AM

^exactly my thought Spinal ...

don't acknowledge the screw up and keep playing ...

DWBass · #6 08-25-2011, 10:13 AM

I think it was probably someone sitting in. They couldn't possibly be gigging with a regular drummer playing like that!

stflbn · #7 08-25-2011, 10:15 AM

SO, where does the bandleader not having a clue come in?

Is the bandleader the drummer, or one of the bandmembers apparently not aware that their drummer is horrible?

bobthegood · #8 08-25-2011, 10:20 AM

+1 Start together, end together, and play it through........

ChrisB2 · #9 08-25-2011, 10:25 AM

I actually think the KB player stopped first, tripping up the drummer.

Looks like the KB player turns around, maybe someone spoke to him, and he just stops playing. Then the drummer derails.

But yeah, classic bush-league trainwreck. I've caused my share and rode out plenty by others...

martinmcfly · #10 08-25-2011, 10:44 AM

LOL. That was supposed to be his big drum solo, and I was supposed to keep a steady line while he soloed (I tried), and the keyboardist supposed to hit a chord at the first beat of the measures, but nobody, even the dancers could figure out what time signature is was? BTW, I tired to convice the keyboardist (bandleader) to replace the drummer but I think they are friends. I quit this band after the 2nd gig (this video is the 1st). I would've quit after this one but I didn't want to leave them without a Bassist for their only other scheduled gig.

DWBass · #11 08-25-2011, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by martinmcfly

LOL. That was supposed to be his big drum solo, and I was supposed to keep a steady line while he soloed (I tried), and the keyboardist supposed to hit a chord at the first beat of the measures, but nobody, even the dancers could figure out what time signature is was? BTW, I tired to convice the keyboardist (bandleader) to replace the drummer but I think they are friends. I quit this band after the 2nd gig (this video is the 1st). I would've quit after this one but I didn't want to leave them without a Bassist for their only other scheduled gig.

You mean, that IS their regular drummer? I agree. He doesn't have a clue! Is it that easy to get gigs (with sucky musicians)? Wow!

bassbully · #12 08-25-2011, 01:22 PM

That is really bad and If the bandleader kept him I would of left too.

ChrisB2 · #13 08-25-2011, 01:33 PM

Oh. So that really was your band... Eewwwww. Okay, yeah, that's a quittable situation right there, for sure...

AnchorHoy · #14 08-25-2011, 01:49 PM

A drummer that is totally dependent on the rest of the band to keep time for HIM????

Give this guy a guitar and call it "avant garde"

GeoffT · #15 08-25-2011, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by martinmcfly

LOL. That was supposed to be his big drum solo, and I was supposed to keep a steady line while he soloed (I tried), and the keyboardist supposed to hit a chord at the first beat of the measures, but nobody, even the dancers could figure out what time signature is was?

I hate to break this to you but that wasn't just a drummer fail, it was a band fail. Instead of doing your job and playing a steady line you admit that you stopped, same with keys. Heck, the dancers hung in there trying to keep it going longer than you guys did. Everyone has to do their part, at some point in time everyone will loose the groove, even the most seasoned pros. It is the responsibility of the rest of the group to keep it going and hold a solid foundation so that person can get back on track quickly.

I'm not saying that was phenominal drumming or attacking your playing, keeping a steady line going would be tricky in that situation but not impossible. I'm saying instead of posting for the world to see and pointing the finger at him and the band leader, maybe it would be more valuable to ask the question "how could I have done my job better to prevent that from happening?"

Do you think potential band mates would rather play with a guy takes no responsibility for a shared failure and broadcasts it on they web or a guy that understands that it's a team effort and does everything possible to do their part no matter what goes down?

turbo chicken · #16 08-25-2011, 02:06 PM

my drummer follows me on a few songs ... there's a few songs that if i flub... he follows shortly after with a flub, sometimes it's opposite and he'll hit a crash early and i'll make a change early... but we play thru it and laugh like we are just having a good time.

i think it's something that has to be practiced.... when we have rehearsal i usually try and play thru all mistakes even when someone is saying stop stop stop ... forget that... we'll play thru and then after we are over... hit the rough spot again. Stopping mid song irks me in rehearsal

xxpigxx · #17 08-25-2011, 02:07 PM

Personally, I would have given it a few beats, then jump in with a nice little fill, and retrieve the rhythm back, and keep it until everyone else decides to jump back in.

Just my. 02

makkE · #18 08-25-2011, 02:29 PM

"That was supposed to be his big drum solo, and I was supposed to keep a steady line while he soloed (I tried)"

That's where it already failed - a drummer at this point should not be given a "big drum solo" - at his point, he should be told to "concentrate on keeping the beat all the time, and let us do the rest".
I can even grasp what the drummer was trying to do, the mistake was encouraging him to do it :P

Whoever had the idea of this drummer needing a "solo part" did the initial mistake IMHO.
Granted his drumming isn't great, but before that "solo", it was "somehow manageable" at least.

jaywa · #19 08-25-2011, 02:39 PM

I will admit, there have been a few occasions when one member of my band (always the same one) has gotten so far off from the drummer that I've completely dropped out until the two of them can get it back together.

The way I see it, me trying to split the difference between the two of them can only make things worse than they already are. Better that I get out of the way, let the two of them solve things and then come back in when they're solid again.

martinmcfly · #20 08-25-2011, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeoffT

I hate to break this to you but that wasn't just a drummer fail, it was a band fail. Instead of doing your job and playing a steady line you admit that you stopped, same with keys. Heck, the dancers hung in there trying to keep it going longer than you guys did. Everyone has to do their part, at some point in time everyone will loose the groove, even the most seasoned pros. It is the responsibility of the rest of the group to keep it going and hold a solid foundation so that person can get back on track quickly.

I'm not saying that was phenominal drumming or attacking your playing, keeping a steady line going would be tricky in that situation but not impossible. I'm saying instead of posting for the world to see and pointing the finger at him and the band leader, maybe it would be more valuable to ask the question "how could I have done my job better to prevent that from happening?"

Do you think potential band mates would rather play with a guy takes no responsibility for a shared failure and broadcasts it on they web or a guy that understands that it's a team effort and does everything possible to do their part no matter what goes down?

lol