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06-03-2008, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BassChuck  Have his SO lower his 'energy level' before practice and gigs. | thats funny, because our fill in drummer is into punk. when we play louder, faster songs like Born to be Wild, he speeds up like none other. when we play slower, 'boring" songs like So Far Away or Sitting on Top of the World, he holds a steady tempo |
06-04-2008, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by tmart937 Like one that gives a shock when a downbeat is missed? | LOL! Man I'm glad I didn't have coffee in my mouth when I read this!
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06-04-2008, 12:01 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Chicago | | | It all depends on whether or not the musician realizes their flaw and wants to put forth the effort to change. Recording, click tracks, etc, can help, but if their not interested in actually doing these things and PRACTICING, then you either accept the way they play or fire them. It is my suspicion that folks with truely bad time are often either not practicing or practicing very poorly.
I played for a 4 years with a drummer that was very tallented, but didn't practice. He had great beats, but would often rush when he played fills or sang (which was often). It was never openly decided, but the general feeling was that he was a founding member and a really good guy, and it would be too much trouble to replace him, so I just had to deal.
It wasn't an unbearable situation but I did spend alot of time suggesting that we slow down, and deliberately dragging a bit to keep the songs in time. Having played with two very good timekeepers in the past year, I will have alot more difficulty putting up with bad timing from here on out. |
06-04-2008, 12:08 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Los Angeles | | click here--> Visual Metronome
Here's one that is very interesting: (multiple instrument sounds, adjustable volume, colored "signal" lights) http://audio-visual-metronome.google...metronome.html
click the "play" button at the bottom of the display, then click on the tiny green buttons to the left of the colored "signal" lights to start beat. Put it on a laptop with headphones might be a way to go. Or run it through the P.A. and play the song at a reduced volume so everyone can hear the beat/tempo. Or have the guitardist practice with it at home.
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06-04-2008, 12:44 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: schenectady, ny | | I would prefer to just keep pointing it out in rehearsal and work it out with them then. If necessary I might even train wreck the band in rehearsal by not speeding up with them, kind of a fun exercise  ~ although I don't do this for minor tempo fluctuations, only if someone is really stepping on the gas. |
06-04-2008, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bearfoot I would prefer to just keep pointing it out in rehearsal and work it out with them then. If necessary I might even train wreck the band in rehearsal by not speeding up with them, kind of a fun exercise ~ although I don't do this for minor tempo fluctuations, only if someone is really stepping on the gas. | I suggest you work things out before rehearsal, practicing the wrong tempo is never a good thing.
Get the band members with the tempo problem to practice on their own. If the problem is not solved in a general manor and people learn to judge their own behavior, you'll always be policing them. Put up a visual metronome so everyone can see it and get it down. The "train wreck" method really doesn't work during a gig. |
06-04-2008, 01:32 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: AZ | | | well i had trouble w/ the guitarist playing too fast, so we had him add a couple extra notes here and there to even it out. |
06-06-2008, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Baird6869 One of the guys in my band gets excited and rushes through a bunch of our songs making them crazy fast......We play 100% covers.... | I know exactly what you mean - exactly !!!!! The drummer I play with never, and I mean never, plays the same song twice at the same speed.....always different - everytime.
The part I like is where our guitarist/ leader blames ME  ....but all I do is follow along after the count in.
guilt by association I guess. 
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06-06-2008, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Baird6869 One of the guys in my band gets excited and rushes through a bunch of our songs making them crazy fast.
Any ideas of how to nicely get him to slow down? Click track? Make him listed to all of the original tunes over and over?
We play 100% covers.... | How does he feel about his ability to hold tempo? Does he acknowledge he has a problem? If he does, get him a metronome and teach him how to use it when he practices. If he doesn't - there's very little you can do except stop the whole band every time he starts pushing the tempo, say, "You're rushing - we need to start again..."
He'll either fix it or quit and go find someone else's band's tempo to destroy.
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