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11-10-2012, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Already In Use
As noted in previous posts by me, band associations have been laborious, frustrating and time consuming. I am trying to learn how, what and when to and when and what not to.
The drummer was the 1st one to ask if we should let this guitar player go. I was the one suggesting more time until this past session on Friday.
| I wouldn't waste any more time with the guitarist.
Unless I have missed something, it doesn't sound like gigging or money is what your looking for.
Regardless, I would only invest time with serious, committed, experienced, focused musicians that are on the same page as you.
Good luck
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11-10-2012, 03:01 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: London, ON | | | Your guitar player can't play guitar? At all? Does he know any songs you could jam on? |
11-10-2012, 03:08 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: los angeles | | | Practice is what you do at home to learn the songs. Rehearsal is getting it down as a band. If someone isn't willing to practice they shouldn't bother to show up to rehearsal. Unless the band is just an excuse to get together for some beers, of course. |
11-10-2012, 03:18 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | | Thanks...last 3 posts..Blue...you re spot on...nothing missed.
Dymond..he can wiggle thru Louie Louie and Wild Thing...all he knows is tab..very difficult. I hope the light comes on for him. Music is wonderful...Peace! |
11-10-2012, 04:12 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: NJ | | | He's refusing to practise and your help with learning anything. Let him go. This might be a different story if he were putting in the effort. He's not. Find someone with either the skill and/or the drive to make it work. |
11-11-2012, 12:07 AM
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Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego | | Join Date: May 2000 Location: Groom Lake, NV | | | How does someone who can't play an instrument get into a band in the first place?
Goom-bye.
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11-11-2012, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by obimark  Sort of like these guitards who think they can take over on bass, since A: It's Easy. B: They already know guitar. |  Ahem... I'm one of those "guitards" though I never "took over" on bass. I play both and it was a choice to play bass in my current band.
And I do NOT subscribe to theory "A", and with respect to theory "B", the background & knowledge haven't hurt any.
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11-11-2012, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyingfrets Ahem... I'm one of those "guitards" though I never "took over" on bass. I play both and it was a choice to play bass in my current band.
And I do NOT subscribe to theory "A", and with respect to theory "B", the background & knowledge haven't hurt any. | Clearly you're not one of the guitards he was referring to, so no need to take offense.
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11-11-2012, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Munjibunga How does someone who can't play an instrument get into a band in the first place?
Goom-bye. | Geez! He played alone with the drummer...jammed out...drummer called him out...This is a fresh start up. Things are moving forward. I even sent the dude over here to learn about music..no luck!
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11-11-2012, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Winfred You shouldn't have "gone off" on him, just my opinion, but there's never a reason to do that. You do have to let him go though.
Guitar players are everywhere, and 90% of them are bad musicians. Start looking, and you'll find another one. Just turn over any rock...
Good luck! | +1. No need to be unpleasant, but I'd cut ties with him. He certainly holds no monopoly on his craft. Dump him and find someone who requires less investment and returns more profits. |
11-11-2012, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Already In Use Geez! He played alone with the drummer...jammed out...drummer called him out...This is a fresh start up. Things are moving forward. I even sent the dude over here to learn about music..no luck!
Peace! Thanks! | Things are clearly not moving forward. He's just not that into it. Hence, adios.
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11-11-2012, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Munjibunga Things are clearly not moving forward. He's just not that into it. Hence, adios. | Meant...moving forward w/o him...sorry. |
11-11-2012, 12:29 PM
| | | There's a reason why he's 49 and knows nothing - he's NOT interested.
He's useless. Move on.  |
11-11-2012, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Stick_Player There's a reason why he's 49 and knows nothing - he's NOT interested.
He's useless. Move on. | Right on! We have a powerful male vocalist guitar player in place. I played with him last night as a guest at his Sat eve gig...went well there and at our initial GTG Friday afternoon.
Again..thanks to everybody for their input. I learned quite a bit about how to approach such challenges in the future..including how to AVOID them!
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11-11-2012, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Munjibunga How does someone who can't play an instrument get into a band in the first place? | Yeah, I don't know if we have the answer for that.
I think this guy was a friend of the drummer. But why they wasted any time on this guy in the first place is still a mystery.
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11-12-2012, 11:19 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Brisbane, Australia | | | Even if he was 17 I would sack him. I can put up with a lot of things with band members, but never laziness. He's just wasting your time. Stick your foot up his ass and send him on his merry way.
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11-12-2012, 11:46 AM
|  | My SQUIER is on Fire! | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Blimp City USA | | | Sounds like the guy is a wanna-bee and time waster so cut him loose. Wanting to be in a band and able to play in one takes work, ability and dedication. He has nothing to offer you and if the drummer truely is his friend he should tell him himself.
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11-12-2012, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Already In Use Here's the deal. He plays using tab. Doesnt know any theory, chord structure, notes on his fret board, etc...Cant play from fake chord sheets. | who cares? this just makes it sound like it's you with the problem. Quote:
Originally Posted by Already In Use So tonight he comes out and again cant play anything.
Said guitar player says he doesn't show up for music lessons and will do what he likes. That keeps us from playing music. | those are real problems. going off on the guy is not the answer. the majority of people do not deserve to be treated like that. cut him loose, audition replacement. |
11-12-2012, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bassbully ...the guy is a wanna-bee and time waster...He has nothing to offer... | This about sums it up. |
11-12-2012, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DwaynieAD who cares? this just makes it sound like it's you with the problem.
those are real problems. going off on the guy is not the answer. the majority of people do not deserve to be treated like that. cut him loose, audition replacement. | Agreed, if he doesn't understand that you have to practice in order to play, he wouldn't understand why you would "go off all mental" on the guy.
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