Is this being wishy washy?

[Secret Journey]

I wish the guy would just say im in or out. whats this mean???
"I know I've said this before, but please feel free to work with other drummers as needed to cover these gigs or whatever else you need. I'm not sure I want to gig as frequently as you'd like and I'd prefer to keep it semi-local, but I also don't want to hold you back- - I love drumming for you guys but don't at all mind sharing the drummer spot with someone else (or giving it up) if you need more than I'm willing or able to do. I think it might be wise to keep an eye out -- y'never know"
I guess keep looking for another drummer?

[jmac]

It means it's time to find another drummer. If you don't, this guy is going to screw you sooner or later.

[Chickencha]

It's hard to say, not knowing the whole situation. It sounds like you need to have a conversation with him about exactly how often he'd like to gig and what his commitment level is. (Make him give you numbers, like once a week, twice a month, etc.)

Decide if his limitations will work for you. If they will, then problem solved. If they won't, then find a way to do away with them, either by adding another drummer or getting a new drummer entirely. I'd go for the latter option, personally, since I think having two drummers sounds difficult.

[ChrisB2]

Originally Posted by Secret Journey

Is this being wishy washy?

Kinda, yeah. I think it means he likes to play, but not that much and he doesn't want to limit how much your band can play, since you need a drummer at every gig. He's letting you know that if you want to keep gigging at the level you're at, get somebody else. But he's being so "nice" about it that you can't really tell for sure.

Originally Posted by Secret Journey

I guess keep looking for another drummer?

If, by "another" you mean "replacement," yeah, I would.

[stflbn]

I think it means that it's football season and he may find it more interesting to sit on the couch than to go outside and haul drums and play 'till early in the morning.

[jgbass]

It sounds like you and the others' level of involvement in the band as far as how often you play out, rehearse, tour, etc. is at a higher or more frequent one than what he wants. He has other stuff going on.

I would look for another drummer. Maybe he could be the sub, if you even need one. Sadly, sooner or later, you might have a gig and he will throw up his sticks and say too much, I have something else more importnat to do, I am out of here. He is definitely telling you something important, and if you need more info, ask him. He sounds like a pretty good communicator.

And, make sure your new drummer wants to play out, rehearse, and tour as much are you and the other members do.

[JonathanD]

Seems pretty clear. Read it like it says. He can not commit, but likes playing with you.

[Uribam]

Seems like a pretty honest guy to me. He doesn't want any hard feelings or trouble. I think he just laid the cards on the table exactly how they are. He doesn't want you guys to lose gigs or his friendship. I'd ask him if he'd mind subbing for you if/when you need it. It's a good way to keep a friendly relationship with the guy, because you never know when you need someone in a pinch.

Scott

[geeza]

He's not being wishy-washy as much as he is not committing.

[Stumbo]

Wishy-Washy? I'd say yes. Maybe even namby-pamby!

* Main Entry: wishy–washy
* Pronunciation: \ˈwi-shē-ˌwȯ-shē, -ˌwä-\
* Function: adjective
* Etymology: reduplication of washy
* Date: 1703

1 : lacking in character or determination : ineffectual <wishy-washy leadership>
2 : Indecisive
3 : lacking in strength or flavor : weak <wishy-washy wines>

[Jim Campbell]

Originally Posted by Secret Journey

I wish the guy would just say im in or out. whats this mean???
"I know I've said this before, but please feel free to work with other drummers as needed to cover these gigs or whatever else you need. I'm not sure I want to gig as frequently as you'd like and I'd prefer to keep it semi-local, but I also don't want to hold you back- - I love drumming for you guys but don't at all mind sharing the drummer spot with someone else (or giving it up) if you need more than I'm willing or able to do. I think it might be wise to keep an eye out -- y'never know"
I guess keep looking for another drummer?

there are a million good reasons for him to start thinking of limiting the commitment level,and it may be of a personal nature........he is giving you lots of notice,so why think ill of the guy.......given the number of threads here about flaky guys who bail or pull disappearing acts be happy you got notice......

[duff beer]

He likes playing with the band, but just doesn't want to gig as much as everyone else. I don't think that's wishy washy...everyone has different priorities.

Look for a replacement but don't burn any bridges, because it sounds like he would make a great sub.

[cassanova]

Originally Posted by duff beer

He likes playing with the band, but just doesn't want to gig as much as everyone else. I don't think that's wishy washy...everyone has different priorities.

Look for a replacement but don't burn any bridges, because it sounds like he would make a great sub.

+1.

[Vetchking]

Vetchking Here:

Drummers need confidence...... Trust me.

Your guy has none........... Later

[Passinwind]

Originally Posted by Secret Journey

I wish the guy would just say im in or out. whats this mean???

Seems dead clear to me. I told both of my now-former bands the same thing in the last month or two. Either get a sub or just replace the guy, either of which he's already said is fine by him. Subs have been a fact of life in the vast majority of bands I've played in, FWIW. At least he's leaving the door open to his becoming your sub.

[RustyAxe]

Originally Posted by Secret Journey

I wish the guy would just say im in or out. whats this mean???
"I know I've said this before, but please feel free to work with other drummers as needed to cover these gigs or whatever else you need. I'm not sure I want to gig as frequently as you'd like and I'd prefer to keep it semi-local, but I also don't want to hold you back- - I love drumming for you guys but don't at all mind sharing the drummer spot with someone else (or giving it up) if you need more than I'm willing or able to do. I think it might be wise to keep an eye out -- y'never know"
I guess keep looking for another drummer?

Maybe ... if your intentions are to tour or to gig more often than your drummer cares to. He's telling you straight up where he's at ... and that YOU need to decide whether that's ok, or whether you'll replace him, either completely, or part time. What comes next is up to YOU.