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Old 02-10-2008, 12:51 PM
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Has anyone ever played a stint on a cruise ship? The pay seems decent and you get to practically live on a cruise ship. I was thinking about making that a possible gig after college. What experiences have any of you guys had?
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Has anyone ever played a stint on a cruise ship? The pay seems decent and you get to practically live on a cruise ship. I was thinking about making that a possible gig after college. What experiences have any of you guys had?
I thought it would be a cool gig too, until I saw their rooms and the other activities they're required to do. I'm sure it all varies from ship to ship, but "living on a cruise ship" is NOT one of the perks as far as I understand.
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I've never done it, but I know this has been discussed before. Some points I think I remember:

- Usually a very small room to sleep in. Sometimes you have to have a roommate.
- Often you're not allowed to socialize with the guests. You're "the help".
- Be prepared to be away from home for weeks or months at a time.
- Mandatory drills, instructions on ship procedures, etc. Somewhat like being in the military, to a point.

On the plus side, it could be a good way to save up a lot of money, since your expenses will be pretty low.
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There was a good thread on this subject a while back:

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crap crap crap. Its like window shopping. You can look at all the hot birds but you cannot touch or talk to them. Steer clear unless you like getting none
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A friend of mine, who's a music teacher, tells the story of a talented drummer student who took a job on a cruise ship and had to share a cabin with a drunken bass player who would bring girls back to the cabin while the drummer was trying to get some sleep. After the cruise, the drummer came home, enrolled in the Pure and Applied Sciences program and was never heard from again.

It didn't work out for the drummer but I'll bet the bassist had a great time.
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I played on a Princess Cruise line Alaska Inside Passage cruise 3 years ago. It was part of a rhythm section backing a Top-40
"show" band, we actually snuck in a few very hip tunes I thought-Some Stevie Wonder, some Motown, but by and large, the Bandleader kept it on kind of a "Proud Mary" level- have to keep the 'Cruisers happy and dancing!

The pluses-
Free Cruise, of course, with all day to yourself, laying on deck, visiting the ports of call, and the Food ain't bad, even though we were not given the same unlimited choices as the Customers of course.

The $$ was not bad, considering all expenses except alchohol, are furnished. (Gotta watch that bar tab; it can really add up!) If you're careful and stash the money away, you can return home with a nice wallet. I was not and did not, but had a lot of fun spending it anyway.

The musicianship was actually at a pretty high level, mostly seasoned pros with a vast and varied level of experience.
Auditioning in my case required absolute sight-reading proficiency, and like most "show" gigs, you need to play THE part. Our Musical director actually gave us a few sections in a few numbers to stretch out as a rhythm section, and we had fun, but for the most part, it was play the chart, do the "Show"...Night after night; 7 days a week...

The minuses-
You are not a "guest", you are one step above a busboy on the personnel pecking order, and even some of the crew members disdained the musicians, thinking we were prima donnas, and letting us know that certain areas were off-limits.
Naturally tact and a smile went a long way in dealing with that!

Your room is of the lowest level, often astern, lower decks, sometimes shared. I got the luck of the draw and had my own space, but others had a room-mate.
And these cabins are TINY- I mean you have to see 'em to believe 'em... A sink the size of a bowl, etc.
OTOH, I spent a lot of the day out and about, either on deck checking out Glaciers in my case, or touring the port cities.

If you have a family (I do) it gets lonely, like any road gig.

Final plus was that some of us got together after hours and played some smokin' music, for us and some of the crew (as well as "select" guests. friends of the band if you will!)

Would I do it again?
Nope, I've been offered, and although I would and have done a tour, I prefer doing it on land. Just a little more freedom musically and personally.

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It's been a very long time since I did the cruise ship gigs, but for three summers back in the very early '70's I worked on a "cruise to nowhere" ship that ran 3 day excursions .... the ship would go out into the ocean but never docked anywhere during the 3 days. It would return to port, off-load the customers, re-load the new customers and take off again. In essence, I would get on the boat at the end of June and not get off the thing again until the end of August .....

I agree with almost everything realdeal said above ^^^^. That was also my experience, although I was with an established band so we had a bit more flexibility in the arrangements. But as a cruise musician you are nothing more than a hired hand and might well be even lower on the food chain than the busboys. It grows old really fast, and for sure, the bar tab will kill you if you aren't very careful ....
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I just got off a ship last March. I did 6 weeks in Australia on the Pacific Star and then 6 months on the Tahitian Princess. Everything above is pretty much right on. Some of the more subtle nuances depend on which ship you are on and how the Captain and Staff Captain run their operation. I was part of the Show Band/Orchestra which meant that we backed the visiting entertainers and played all of the production shows. This also meant play-ons and play-offs for the comedians and magicians. The musicianship level was pretty high on both ships, some pretty good players. After you learn the shows though it's a bit of a cakewalk. If you end up in the Orchestra be prepared to arrive on the ship and do a show that same night. Most of the production shows have anywhere from 30-40 songs with charts ranging from 2 pages to 8, so get good at turning pages while playing.

Ship life is just what it is. Depending on the line (i can only speak for Princess here) you will have to do Passenger Drills once a cruise. This entails showing passengers where their muster station is and showing them how to don a lifejacket. Then there are the drills, which they sadistically scheduled at 9:00 am the day after our night off in a really nice port.

On the ships I was on the musicians were allowed to eat in the Officer's Mess so the food was not too bad. We were also allowed on deck and had most priveledges such as the pool and other things. We were not allowed to sit at a bar though and if we did have a drink in a public area it had to be out of a glass (ie. no beer bottle). But the crew bar is cheap and you get to see lots of great places.

Would I do it again? No, not right now, I met my wife on the ship and we are much happier on land.
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I think I'll give it a shot after college.
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