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Old 01-25-2013, 03:26 PM
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The demise of my blues band

Bit sooner than I expected, and in a different manner than expected but I got the -unofficial- word yesterday.

Bit of background before I get started: the singer and one of the guitarists in my band also play in a second blues band. "My" band does covers, "their" band does originals. A few months ago, their band really took off. And this caused discord in "my" band"

Anyway, yesterday I went to see the "other" band, and met up with the guys before the gig. The guitarist who's also in my band told me immediately that due to personal issues in his life, he's forced to quit "my" band and depending on how it goes, might even quit the "other" band, too.

I told him this actually makes a lot of things easier, and that he should take however much time he needs to get his issues sorted out (because, without going into details, they are way more important than music) and that he should call me when he's ready to start a new project again.

I won't lie: I am sad and disappointed that it ends so quickly. This is the best band I have played in so far, with some of the best musicians I have played in so far. I learned so much, I play stuff I never thought I would be able to play. Opened for some international acts and played stages big and small.

The worst thing is: the last gig we've played was just not good. And there's a good chance that we will not honour the March gig, so that will be the last one we ever played. In a way, it will be a fitting swan song, because I realized when I saw the "other" band, that the big issue with "my" band has always been: we were never a band.

Seeing and especially hearing the "other" band on stage last night, finally made me realize what was missing in "my" band: chemistry. It just wasn't there. We never really gelled as a band, there have always been small subgroups (with me usually smack in the middle of them, for some reason) and the sum was never greater than the parts.

So there you have it. I will not cry because it's over. Nothing but good will come from this. I am sure of it. What that is, remains to be seen, but whatever happens next, it will be good. And I will get better, and I will gain more experience. And I will have fun.
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Old 01-25-2013, 03:41 PM
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Come on brother, its a blues band. Pick up another guitar player and carry on!
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Old 01-25-2013, 03:43 PM
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Bit sooner than I expected, and in a different manner than expected but I got the -unofficial- word yesterday.

Bit of background before I get started: the singer and one of the guitarists in my band also play in a second blues band.
Sorry to hear.

My position on playing in multiple bands and the problems it can cause is no secret on this forum.

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Old 01-25-2013, 03:56 PM
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Come on brother, its a blues band. Pick up another guitar player and carry on!
Who knows what the variables are. It might not be that easy.

If we lost our lead guitar player, she would be impossible to replace.

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Old 01-25-2013, 03:59 PM
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Yeah, I have to agree w/Blue (even though I sometimes don't). No offense intended, Blue! Next time try and get w/guys who will commit to a single project. The good part is you came away with some good experience....focus on the positive!! Chemistry is either there or not....kind of hard to predict or create. It's sort of like losing a GF. Sad but sometimes for the better...lick your wounds....the next great adventure may be just around the corner!

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Old 01-25-2013, 04:06 PM
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Do you mean Musical Chemistry? Or do you mean Personal chemistry?
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Old 01-25-2013, 04:11 PM
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Not all , but most people who "play" in multiple bands are a waste of time. (There are some exceptions, but you have to be REAL Damn professional to make it work) and from the many bands I have been in, that is in short supply.
It is hard enough to get 4 peoples heads in the same spot to practice once a week (or every other week) and play 2-3 gigs a month when they are ALL in only the ONE band.
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You should write a song about this.
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Old 01-25-2013, 04:19 PM
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Sorry to hear.

My position on playing in multiple bands and the problems it can cause is no secret on this forum.

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Old 01-25-2013, 04:20 PM
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Actually - and ironically - we were the "second" band for a while. The singer and guitarist had started "us" because the other band was going nowhere. Looked like we would take off but then they revived said "other" band under a different name and it skyrocketed like crazy.

Chemistry: I meant on a personal level - which affects the musical chemistry too. We were a pretty good live act for most of the gigs we did, but I realized after seeing "the other band" that there had always been this "not quite" aspect to us. We were "not quite" there as a unit.

If anyone cares, here's our demo: https://soundcloud.com/dustydollar/sets/promo-cd

It's not quite perfect (that's why it's a demo) and we should really have re-recorded everything but we'd already (literally) lost a day's worth of recordings due to a stupid accident. Ah, reminiscing already
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Sorry to hear it. My little soul band came to an end a few months ago despite my best efforts to juggle the extensive parameters I was given to deal with. Was a real pity as the band had some excellent potential. Fortunately, I had another band going so I've got something to keep me busy. Anyway, I'm sure you'll find another project soon.
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Old 01-25-2013, 04:38 PM
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Not all , but most people who "play" in multiple bands are a waste of time.
IME, the people I most enjoy playing with—the ones who have the widest and deepest musical vocabularies, who consistently come up with the most creative musical ideas, who listen and respond best, and who make it easiest for everyone to sound good—tend to be playing a lot, tend to play in a wide range of settings, and tend to do a lot of freelance work.
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Old 01-25-2013, 04:48 PM
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so long as you are open and honest and do your homework, there is no problem with doing more than one band. at one point, i did three.
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Not all , but most people who "play" in multiple bands are a waste of time. (There are some exceptions, but you have to be REAL Damn professional to make it work) and from the many bands I have been in, that is in short supply.
It is hard enough to get 4 peoples heads in the same spot to practice once a week (or every other week) and play 2-3 gigs a month when they are ALL in only the ONE band.
Depending on the individuals involved one band's goals may not be enough for another member. For example, the members of band A, decide that they can only commit to twice a month (1 gig/1 rehearsal or 2 gigs or 2 rehearsals) and that may not satisfy the gigging desire of one or more members of the band. In addition one band may be specializing in one style of music and one or more members of the band want to dabble in various other styles. It can be a hassle but sometimes it can't be helped.

YMMV, etc.
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#5 The Highlander Doctrine
RE: Multible band participation

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Blue"s opinion.

Only 1 band for me. I can't speak for everyone.

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Old 01-25-2013, 05:15 PM
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Blue"s opinion.

Only 1 band for me. I can't speak for everyone.

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I like to play a lot. That's why I (and most) are in more that one band. 2-3 times a month don't cut it for me.
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so long as you are open and honest and do your homework, there is no problem with doing more than one band. at one point, i did three.
Ok, fine, but it comes back to the gigging issue. What happens if one band starts gigging every Friday and Saturday night 9:00-1:00?

Or are we talking about bands that don't gig. I've learned from this forum that's not uncommon.

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I like to play a lot. That's why I (and most) are in more that one band. 2-3 times a month don't cut it for me.
Ok, how can you play in multiple bands if all the bands your in are all booked up on weekends?

You can't be in 2 places at the same time.

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Old 01-25-2013, 05:22 PM
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Ok, how can you play in multiple bands if there all booked on weekends?

You can't be in 2 places at the same time.

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Very,VERY few bands are booked every Friday and Saturday of every month.
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:24 PM
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I've done multiple gigs in multiple states before on the same day. Not recommended, but doable.

Most bands aren't working terribly often these days so it is a non issue for most.
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