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Old 01-16-2013, 08:37 AM
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Its Mr Soul by Buffalo Springfield. Seems fitting for the topic at hand.
Really? it reads like a rap song
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:39 AM
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I'm one of those guys that can't wear hats. I look ridiculous in them.

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In a Blues band? Blues player look awesome in hat's..try one. I bet I could find you one that would really make you look cool.
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In a Blues band? Blues player look awesome in hat's..try one. I bet I could find you one that would really make you look cool.
Thanks,

I'm in a blues/ rock band, but I'm not really a blues/ rock guy.

Plus, I already look cool.


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Old 01-16-2013, 08:52 AM
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If restricted myself to playing the kind of music I like, I wouldn't be gigging. I would be in the bedroom.

I have a few friends that are super talented players, however they restrict themselves to playing only what they like.

None of them have played out in years.

Wouldn't you say guys like that are not really gigging band material.

No offence, but it would seem there has to be some degree of flexibility.

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I play what I want to play because my musical 'heros' did the same thing. Sure, I'm not thrilled that there aren't more gigs for my band but that is because the other members of the band play in other bands that are higher on their priority list than this one. They tell me they dont want to "over-saturate" our area with this band yet they play in bands that have "over-saturated" the entire scene for years with the same basic sets of music. Tell me that isn't "over-saturation".
The bottom line is that their first priority is making money. Fine. My priority is playing music that appeals to me.
These cover bands that canvass the area month after month really aren't that great, some of them even suck, but they bring in a crowd that drinks, and that is the only thing that matters. A few years later that band disappears and another fills their spot.
BORING.
I have other musical priorities and I really don't care about the music "business".
If that means I sit in my room with my headphones and bass then so be it. At least I don't have to wait on the band on the CD and can take a piss break and or eat something anytime I decide to hit the pause button. That band on CD is always ready to play and always play it the same way. Nice.
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:09 AM
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Thanks,

I'm in a blues/ rock band, but I'm not really a blues/ rock guy.

Plus, I already look cool.


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Alrighty then..glad you look cool. It is important to look the part and like a BL once told me never show uup for a gig where you look like one of the crowd. You are a performer..the band..look and act like it.
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Alrighty then..glad you look cool. It is important to look the part and like a BL once told me never show uup for a gig where you look like one of the crowd. You are a performer..the band..look and act like it.
I agree 100%.

However, seems like a lot of guys are into showing up foe a gig wearing their office clothes. They just don't get the whole look like your in a band thing.

By the way, a little clarification, I look cool for a 60 year old. Lol

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Old 01-16-2013, 09:44 AM
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It could be fun seeing who truly has what it takes to be MR. ROCK AND ROLL
Here's my entry:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts-0nqZ72iM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r1AdjDwtiY&t=5m24s
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It's all about your spirit, knowledge and attitude.

For me, it's my spirit and attitude. I doubt I look like Mr. Rock & Roll on stage.

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Old 01-16-2013, 10:10 AM
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WAIT WHOA!!! You are not playing da' bass bro. Sorry you are out of consideration. Please submit a video of you on da' bass

Ok here is mine one of our more rockin tunes


http://youtu.be/xCRhHVM1LMU

Edit: that video is a few years old and I'm almost 40lbs thinner..lol and i was kind of tanked at that show.
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My priority is playing music that appeals to me.
That's fine. I think your in the same world as my friend. He's fine staying at home playing and recording his own music. He told me, he doesn't have to be in a working band like me.

He had gone for years without being in a band.

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Ok here is mine one of our more rockin tunes


http://youtu.be/xCRhHVM1LMU
I'm impressed!

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Old 01-16-2013, 10:36 AM
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WAIT WHOA!!! You are not playing da' bass bro. Sorry you are out of consideration. Please submit a video of you on da' bass


Also, that crowd cannot be having a good time - there's a music stand on that stage. They are clearly unimpressed.
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That's fine. I think your in the same world as my friend. He's fine staying at home playing and recording his own music. He told me, he doesn't have to be in a working band like me.

He had gone for years without being in a band.

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I went for nine years at home before my latest band. 2001-2010. I'm not 'fine' with that but at the same time I have stated that I'm a bit narrow with my flexability and I'm also well aware that it's not the 1970's anymore where bands could entertain the thought of more complex, extended pieces of music. I want to be in a working band but the kind that I want to be in isn't common and usually you have to be in the right place at the right time to hook up with a band you really want to be in. I just think it sucks to have to toe the line with the same kind of 'party rock/dance' music that seems to be the only acceptable thing to play if you want to play on a stage. I think about wanting to be in a prog type band or something like a Frank Marino/Pat Travers/Jeff Beck type of thing. Who wants to hear that stuff? Besides me?
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Also, that crowd cannot be having a good time - there's a music stand on that stage. They are clearly unimpressed.
Oh.. a music stand? Really..big no-no
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:51 AM
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I'm impressed!

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Thanks not my best performance but I had a blast.
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I went for nine years at home before my latest band. 2001-2010. I'm not 'fine' with that but at the same time I have stated that I'm a bit narrow with my flexability and I'm also well aware that it's not the 1970's anymore where bands could entertain the thought of more complex, extended pieces of music. I want to be in a working band but the kind that I want to be in isn't common and usually you have to be in the right place at the right time to hook up with a band you really want to be in. I just think it sucks to have to toe the line with the same kind of 'party rock/dance' music that seems to be the only acceptable thing to play if you want to play on a stage. I think about wanting to be in a prog type band or something like a Frank Marino/Pat Travers/Jeff Beck type of thing. Who wants to hear that stuff? Besides me?
I hear you, I love that kind of music too. Unfortunately in Milwaukee the gigging opportunities would be really far and few in between.

I have to be in a band that's has a local market.

I have to be in a band, have to be on stage, I thrive on the attention.

As long as I'm with good people with consistent good paying gigs genre is unimportant to me.

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Old 01-16-2013, 11:36 AM
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This thread is for those of you in bar bands or joining bar bands doing traditional 4 hour shows in the $400.00- $500.00 fee range.

What is your take on pay?

My position regardless of the circumstance is you should get an equal cut.

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I was in a 4 man band, we split the pay 5 ways. I got the extra portion. I booked everything, but that wasn't really the issue. I also owned the PA lock,stock & barrel. The extra portion was so that nobody else had to mess with the PA when stuff broke etc. Everybody did help move it in/out of the venue though. It was their suggestion, mostly so they could remain hands off. That seemed fine to me
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I was in a 4 man band, we split the pay 5 ways. I got the extra portion. I booked everything, but that wasn't really the issue. I also owned the PA lock,stock & barrel. The extra portion was so that nobody else had to mess with the PA when stuff broke etc. Everybody did help move it in/out of the venue though. It was their suggestion, mostly so they could remain hands off. That seemed fine to me
I would say it's fair too.

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Really? it reads like a rap song
It's not a rap song, it's real music (and this is a really old video!):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRhHDS69iU0
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It's not a rap song, it's real music (and this is a really old video!):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRhHDS69iU0
Funny, given the conversation in this thread, that this live version of "Mr. Soul" has a roadie taking Bruce Palmer's place on bass, sitting unlit with his back to the audience on the side of the stage. There's a nod to the value of the bassist in straight-ahead rock.
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