Explain punk "credibility"?

[Munjibunga]

Originally Posted by lustersilk

You must not get out there much anymore, too bad.

Originally Posted by MarkMgibson

??

There's being obscure, and then there's just being too stoned to make sense. Green Day is very punk for 9 year olds. Not sure what their toenails have to do with anything.

Originally Posted by Kamuilija

I think the pedicurist comment refers to the movie trailer I linked a few posts back. The film is documentary of a Finnish punk band, Pertti Kurikan Nimipäivät, whose members are all mentally handicapped people (Down syndrome, Williams syndrome, etc), and whose songs are about what's wrong with their lives - having to go to the pedicurist's, not getting to choose where you live, being taunted for your speech impediment and so on. I think that's the "real" punk attitude, not being happy with the conditions in which you live, and making music about that.

I'm not as dumb as I look.

[MarkMgibson]

Originally Posted by geddeeee

What makes me laugh about the whole 'punk' thing, is that 'punk' is a music industry tag to 'pigeon hole' that specific genre of music.

It's just rock music.

The punk movement lasted less than a year anyway, before it was retagged 'New Wave'.

It's all bollocks. I know, I was there '75/'76. Punk was an idea marketed to the kids by the very clever Malcolm McLaren to help sell clothes via Vivienne Westwood.

As Rotten remarked at the time: "Ever get the feeling you've been had?"

Class!!!!!!

That's what I always thought. Most of these "punk" bands are just playing no frills Rock & Roll. Some do it well, some are crap, just like any other R&R bands.

[Bert Slide]

The best thing about punk is it broke the rock n roll free from the baby boomers who had tried to freeze it in time for 10+ years. It made kids realize that you didn't have to play like Clapton and be in a giant stadium to be in a rock and roll band. DIY is alive and well today and technologies have made new possibilities endless.

[vlado]

Originally Posted by Bert Slide

The best thing about punk is it broke the rock n roll free from the baby boomers who had tried to freeze it in time for 10+ years. It made kids realize that you didn't have to play like Clapton and be in a giant stadium to be in a rock and roll band.

It did and I love it for that reason. That is the whole point of being an artist or an creative person in general, to break out of the rules that somebody laid down before you, that make no sense and are completely outgrown at a given moment. But then the problem starts when a bunch of phonies use that as a shield, as an opportunity to hide their lack of eloquence and talent. I think that is the thing that the OP is describing here...

[Kael]

punk cred = 1 / (talent + professionalism + success)

[Josh Pelican]

Using the phrase "punk cred" is not punk.