Genre Abuse - Page 3

plankspanker13 · #41 01-11-2013, 05:08 PM

Then there's the whole misuse of the term, "progressive." To me, prog-rock will always be what Yes, King Crimson, ELP, Genesis, Gentle Giant, and Jethro Tull started. These were the first significant bands to wear that label, but now, I see a lot of other people applying it to where it does not seem to have any connection to the aforementioned.

mellowinman · #42 01-11-2013, 07:21 PM

It was 1980. My first band was called "Stranger." I always thought our first album should be called "The Billy Joel." I wanted to be called "The Meek." Nobody liked that name. Our guitar player, and bass player, had agreed on a description of our genre.

"We play Classically-Inspired Progressive Psychedelic Jazz Rock."

Really caught on, too! My favorite lyric and song title was "Send Your Weary Eyes."

We never played a song that wasn't a Pink Floyd/Rush/Hendrix/BTO cover for any kind of audience at all.

After I left the band, they changed the name to "Music."

I swear to God I'm not making any of this up.

JoeWPgh · #43 01-11-2013, 07:25 PM

Screw genre. Seriously. Play what you want to hear and let the chips fall where they may.

4dog · #44 01-11-2013, 07:30 PM

So many genre's so little time,anyone remember the"new sincerety movement"?

LiquidMidnight · #45 01-11-2013, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MatticusMania

So, what does an "indie" band sound like?

I've always thought of bands like Cornershop (the band that did Brim Full of Asha), Afghan Whigs, Guster, and early Beck as all being archetypical of "indie" music. Basically, I've always categorized it as a more artistically ambitious garage band type of music - usually not really "heavy" in the traditional sense, sometimes lofi.

4dog · #46 01-16-2013, 10:57 PM

Music is music the labels just tell the stores where to stack em.

pklima · #47 01-17-2013, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeF

If you wanna get a rise out of someone who is dedicated to a "genre" just do what I do.

"We are a indie(shoegaze/post modern whatever)"

"Oh, your a pop band."

Calling Nickelback, Nirvana, Metallica and Oasis "classic rock" is fun, too. As in "Sorry, I don't know how to play any Burzum songs, I'm not really into classic rock".

vishuddha · #48 01-17-2013, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by pklima

Calling Nickelback, Nirvana, Metallica and Oasis "classic rock" is fun, too. As in "Sorry, I don't know how to play any Burzum songs, I'm not really into classic rock".

Sometimes, when I meet someone who talks about anime, I'll say that I'm not really into cartoons. They hate it, and it's hilarious. I'm glad to have come across a similar way to be an ******* to pretentious musicians as well!

Munjibunga · #49 01-17-2013, 05:24 PM

I long for a life in which the mischaracterization of the shoegaze genre is a significant issue.

Bert Slide · #50 01-17-2013, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesGoodall

Wait...I'm young and have never even heard of "Shoegaze." One of you who seems to know what you're talking about here clue us clueless in!

In Catholic school we would put little mirrors in our shoe laces and use them to covertly look up the girls skirts.

JumboJack · #51 01-17-2013, 08:33 PM

It's the next phase, new wave, dance craze, anyways
It's still rock & roll to me.
Everybody's talkin' 'bout the new sound
Funny, but it's still rock and roll to me

Munjibunga · #52 01-17-2013, 11:25 PM

Whatever happened to alternative?

D.M.N. · #53 01-18-2013, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Munjibunga

Whatever happened to alternative?

"Indie" generally seems to have replaced it.

And as far as what an "Indie" band sounds like, personally I'd lumps bands such as Arcade Fire, Bon Iver, Iron & Wine, Of Monsters & Men, The Decembrists, Blitzen Trapper, Cults, Vampire Weekend, Fleet Foxes, etc. Of these, Fleet Foxes are the only one I can enjoy, the others I just find rather whiny and dull. I can see Death Cab For Cutie being listed as indie, but I feel since their debut the music that "Indie" has been applied to has evolved a bit since then. I personally don't care what they label the genre, all I know is what I like and what I don't, regardless of genre. When asked to describe what music my band plays, I describe it as "Psyched out Blues Rock", generally works and people know what to expect rather than saying "Rock".

I'll tell you what new genre I can't stand though: Dream Pop. I think the general ethos is "Let's saturate EVERYTHING with excessive reverb, and pass it off as hip and cool".

Marty Forrer · #54 01-18-2013, 01:57 AM

My rockabilly band is doing an open air gig at a park this weekend. The local newspaper did a feature on us and called us a blues, jazz, country and swing band. I guess that's genre abuse!!

The audience are sure gonna get a suprise

**mjac28** · #55 01-18-2013, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RustyAxe

Hmmm ... I'm w-a-y old ... shoegaze? Geez, just when I was getting used to open mics with young people and their incessant naval gazing, I learn that they also gaze at their shoes!

+1 never heard of that word before

Bisounourse · #56 01-18-2013, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Luke19Boarder

and I would say, analogously, that alternative rock was the precursor to indie rock.

Not really, in Europe it was already in use at the end of the '80's (maybe earlier). Alternative rock was a bit later (starting with Nirvana). Still remember the add for '120 Minutes' on MTV Europe: 'The best in Alternative and Indie'.

About Shoegazer: no mention for The Jesus and Mary Chain?

El Barbero · #57 01-18-2013, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JumboJack

It's the next phase, new wave, dance craze, anyways
It's still rock & roll to me.
Everybody's talkin' 'bout the new sound
Funny, but it's still rock and roll to me

Well said that man

Bassist4Eris · #58 01-21-2013, 04:17 PM

I play in an instrumental group that mixes funk, blues, and rock. We are often characterized as "jazz", but not by jazz musicians! We'd need a chart to play Autumn Leaves, and you can forget about Giant Steps. We also get called "jam" despite a minimum of improvisation and some very tightly controlled arrangements.

My other group plays instrumental prog-rock. Sometimes I slap. It's not funk. It's not even close to funk. Guess what the guitar player calls it though? Yup, "that funk tune," or "your new funk riff." Even if it's about as funky as Korn.

And bluegrass! It seems like all traditional, countryish, Americana type stuff now is called bluegrass by people who should know better. I had a drummer tell me about his fill-in gig with a bluegrass band. Really? Drums? In a bluegrass band? And even better, he complained about how the sound guy wanted to tune his drums, because he had loosened the heads in an effort to (wait for it) get a "more traditional bluegrass tone".

stagebanter · #59 01-22-2013, 10:30 PM

Hey OP, let me guess...you were into Death Cab before they were cool.

Oh, my band? Yeah it's sort of a funk-rock-electro-bluegrass-posthiphop-chipotle kind of thing...

How many bluegrass musicians does it take to change a lightbulb? Just one, but five to sit around complaining about how it's electric...

thanks folks I'll be here all week.

LiquidMidnight · #60 01-23-2013, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bassist4Eris

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And bluegrass! It seems like all traditional, countryish, Americana type stuff now is called bluegrass by people who should know better. I had a drummer tell me about his fill-in gig with a bluegrass band. Really? Drums? In a bluegrass band? And even better, he complained about how the sound guy wanted to tune his drums, because he had loosened the heads in an effort to (wait for it) get a "more traditional bluegrass tone".

LMAO!