Going Nowhere Fast - Page 4

Bert Slide · #61 01-25-2013, 04:04 PM

For all my $100 gigs I require a larger dressing room than the puppets AND top billing on the sign!..............oh yeah and a decent relish tray and the correct size bread!

**Pacman** · #62 01-25-2013, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by drpepper

No. I've got the right guy. My Return To The Stage after 30 Years

One of your own mantras has been "Question what a band has to offer." I'd say the same applies to someone giving advice. It makes sense to question what they have to offer; what's behind it and what value it has. In my opinion, someone who feels their role as a part-time musician (and by logical extension as a musician on a forum) requires them to pose, inflate, exaggerate, and be pretentious, is someone whose advice should be put to that test.

Kudos! Very good advice. I think we call it "credibility" and I think you nailed it. Well done, sir.

bluewine · #63 01-26-2013, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

Kudos! Very good advice. I think we call it "credibility" and I think you nailed it. Well done, sir.

Interesting thread, I don't remember posting anything like that.

I've been playing bass in bands for well over 40 years.

Blue

**Pacman** · #64 01-26-2013, 10:27 AM

Just because you don't remember it, doesn't mean you didn't.

My Return To The Stage after 30 Years

And while you deleted your original post, the second post quoted you, so your words are there.

bluewine · #65 01-26-2013, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by drpepper

No. I've got the right guy. My Return To The Stage after 30 Years

I still think you may have me confused with someone else.

Where you said this about the trials you went through trying to find a band: "I didn't know it was "drama". I just thought my life was ending"

I don't remember ever saying anything like that.

Sounds like angst and desperation to me…but that's just my definition.

Could be, I've never dealt with that sort of stuff.

So, is your main concern here to help people, or is it self-promotion and self-aggrandizement?

A little of both, but primarily to help. Especially in mitigating bad band experiences for players new to band culture.

One of your own mantras has been "Question what a band has to offer." I'd say the same applies to someone giving advice. It makes sense to question what they have to offer; what's behind it and what value it has. In my opinion, someone who feels their role as a part-time musician (and by logical extension as a musician on a forum) requires them to pose, inflate, exaggerate, and be pretentious, is someone whose advice should be put to that test.

You have the right to your opinion and you certainly don't have to agree with mine. But I'll give you the one on pretentious, because I am.

And how is it that you know what "many young players go through," when you had so much difficulty navigating what one older player went through? Much of that time was spent blaming your difficulties on your age and complaining that younger players don't have problems because of their age.

Again, I don't really understand what your talking about. However I do appreciate the time you have put into this and your interest in me.

I think the strength of advice given on these types of subjects comes from experience; either from a volume of positive experiences or from learning the right lessons from negative experiences. What do you have to offer?

I agree, but if you question my credibility I suggest skipping over my threads.

Blue

bluewine · #66 01-26-2013, 10:42 AM

[quote=Bert Slide;13777498]For all my $100 gigs I require a larger dressing room than the puppets AND top billing on the sign!..............oh yeah and a decent relish tray and the correct size bread!

The $100.00 a man minimum is what most guys that play the small bar circuit are looking for and require.

Did you think that requirement was exclusive to me?

Blue

bluewine · #67 01-26-2013, 10:46 AM

[quote=Pacman;13780818]Just because you don't remember it, doesn't mean you didn't.

I see where your coming from. Cool, no problem. However, not remembering it is good enough for me.

Peace

Blue

NawBabyNaw · #68 01-26-2013, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bluewine

I've been playing bass in bands for well over 40 years.

Blue

I am confused, you have been playing in bands for 40 years, then took 30 years off?

bluewine · #69 01-26-2013, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NawBabyNaw

I am confused, you have been playing in bands for 40 years, then took 30 years off?

I don't remember being off for 30 years. Seems like a long time to be off..

Blue

fmoore200 · #70 01-26-2013, 07:04 PM

Maybe it was a metaphorical 30 years

NawBabyNaw · #71 01-26-2013, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bluewine

I don't remember being off for 30 years. Seems like a long time to be off..

Blue

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Originally Posted by bluewine
I return to the stage after a 30 years The Not Worth Remembering Band plays at:

Park Place: 1915 Branch St,
Milwaukee, WI
Ph#414-836-8734
11:30pm

Power chords and power vocals will be flying through the air with the greatest of ease!

It's the daring antics of NWR on the flying trapeze!
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You state you were born in 1954, so 30 years would be half your life, seems like a fairly significant lapse in memory.

Edward G. · #72 01-26-2013, 07:15 PM

This is my belief about bands:

EVERY band has a ticking time-bomb in it.

These are the questions one has to answer: 1) Who/what is it? 2)How does one minimize the damage once it goes off? Because it will.

And that's it.

sandmangeck · #73 01-26-2013, 07:22 PM

pwned.

mellowinman · #74 01-26-2013, 11:18 PM

I'll never understand people who act like internet relationships are somehow like real ones. Who cares if there are inconsistencies in someone's postings? Just move along, people.

When I was 13, I was one of the Beatles.

JumboJack · #75 01-26-2013, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mellowinman

I'll never understand people who act like internet relationships are somehow like real ones. Who cares if there are inconsistencies in someone's postings? Just move along, people.

When I was 13, I was one of the Beatles.

You care enough to post about it....

mellowinman · #76 01-27-2013, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JumboJack

You care enough to post about it....

As I mentioned, in 1936, I was a member of Muddy Waters' first band, which reminds me of a story.

I needed a new heel for my shoe, so, I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. Give me five bees for a quarter, you'd say. Now where were we? Oh yeah: the important thing was I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...

NawBabyNaw · #77 01-27-2013, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mellowinman

Who cares if there are inconsistencies in someone's postings? Just move along,

When I was 13, I was one of the Beatles.

Well a 30 or 40 year gap surely is an inconsistency.

If you are offering advice on band management based on "having played in bands for the last 40 years" one could expect the advice to be well reasoned and credible and based on the expertise acquired over a 4 decade time span.

If however, a 30 year break was taken (not unreasonable due to work, family etc.) the the advice provided would be judged differently, as that of a newcomer restarting a playing career and learning along the way.

If as the OP states he is here to assist younger and/or less experienced musicians in the dynamics of band management the credibility of the OP is surely of primary importance is it not?

bluewine · #78 01-27-2013, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by fmoore200

Maybe it was a metaphorical 30 years

More than likely

Blue

bluewine · #79 01-27-2013, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by NawBabyNaw

Well a 30 or 40 year gap surely is an inconsistency.

If you are offering advice on band management based on "having played in bands for the last 40 years" one could expect the advice to be well reasoned and credible and based on the expertise acquired over a 4 decade time span.

If however, a 30 year break was taken (not unreasonable due to work, family etc.) the the advice provided would be judged differently, as that of a newcomer restarting a playing career and learning along the way.

If as the OP states he is here to assist younger and/or less experienced musicians in the dynamics of band management the credibility of the OP is surely of primary importance is it not?

I probably give more opinions than advice.

If my opinions don't make sense or resonate with anyone, I doubt I would be getting the responses I get. Plus nobody is forced to read anyone's threads.

And I believe we have members giving advice that are not in a band and have never been in a band.

Blue

NawBabyNaw · #80 01-27-2013, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bluewine

I probably give more opinions than advice.

If my opinions don't make sense or resonate with anyone, I doubt I would be getting the responses I get. Plus nobody is forced to read anyone's threads.

And I believe we have members giving advice that are not in a band and have never been in a band.

Blue

Not really the point but an excellent attempt at changing the focus.

YOU stated you have played in bands consistently for the past 40 years?

YOU have also stated you made a comeback after 30 years away.

Simple question-which it is?

Thanks.