Going Nowhere Fast

[NawBabyNaw]

Originally Posted by bluewine

I have to agree with jive. For example in this very thread, someone took it apon themselves to post personal information about me.

I don't like it, but there's nothing I can do about it.

Blue

I think you will find no one posted anything about you that YOU had not posted previously. So if you mean people quoted what YOU had posted that would be correct.

[bluewine]

Originally Posted by NawBabyNaw

I think you will find no one posted anything about you that YOU had not posted previously. So if you mean people quoted what YOU had posted that would be correct.

Cool, I guess it's nothing I would do to a forum member.

Respect

Blue

[guy n. cognito]

Originally Posted by bluewine

Interesting thread, I don't remember posting anything like that.

I've been playing bass in bands for well over 40 years.

Blue

Blue, your "return" thread has been brought to your attention time and time again, by myself and others, when you have made your "40 years" claim. Why you continue to lie about this topic is fascinating. In the past, you have claimed that that post itself was the lie, to gather interest from other TBers. Wanna go back to that story again?

[guy n. cognito]

Originally Posted by bluewine

I have to agree with jive. For example in this very thread, someone took it apon themselves to post personal information about me.

I don't like it, but there's nothing I can do about it.

Blue

You posted information about yourself, in dramatic fashion, and someone just happened to remember it. So, what don't you like? That someone read it, or that you typed it in the first place?

[guy n. cognito]

Originally Posted by mellowinman

No one really knows anything.

Ok.......

It's a shame that Blue feels the need to lie. Given his transformation from "covers suck" to "originals suck", and the fact that he participated in both types of bands in a very short period of time, he actually has some insight that could be of benefit to some musicians. The lying just clouds what would otherwise be a respectable musical history.

[bluewine]

Originally Posted by guy n. cognito

Blue, your "return" thread has been brought to your attention time and time again, by myself and others, when you have made your "40 years" claim. Why you continue to lie about this topic is fascinating. In the past, you have claimed that that post itself was the lie, to gather interest from other TBers. Wanna go back to that story again?

Guy you no better than anyone else here, I'm maintaining my position.

BTW, I appreciate your contributions to my threads.

Respect

Blue

[guy n. cognito]

Originally Posted by bluewine

Guy you no better than anyone else here, I'm maintaining my position.

BTW, I appreciate your contributions to my threads.

Respect

Blue

I know, Russ. What must be difficult is to remember which position to maintain.

[bluewine]

Originally Posted by guy n. cognito

You posted information about yourself, in dramatic fashion, and someone just happened to remember it. So, what don't you like? That someone read it, or that you typed it in the first place?

What I don't like? I'm not really sure.

At the end if the day, I'm just trying to post and make good positive contributions to the forum.

The negative stuff, I try not to pay much attention to it.

Respect

Blue

[bluewine]

Originally Posted by guy n. cognito

I know, Russ. What must be difficult is to remember which position to maintain.

Well, I know where your coming from and I agree. It's tough for me because I have and take a lot of positions.

I'm constantly evolving, I can feel one way about an issue or topic one week and entirely different the next.

Respect

Blue

[bluewine]

Originally Posted by guy n. cognito

Ok.......

It's a shame that Blue feels the need to lie. Given his transformation from "covers suck" to "originals suck", and the fact that he participated in both types of bands in a very short period of time, he actually has some insight that could be of benefit to some musicians. The lying just clouds what would otherwise be a respectable musical history.

I have read and listened to many tbers and have a good understanding of cover bands and originals.

There are aspects to both formats that I like.

Both are great, just depends on what makes you happy.

Blue

[mellowinman]

Originally Posted by guy n. cognito

Ok.......

It's a shame that Blue feels the need to lie. Given his transformation from "covers suck" to "originals suck", and the fact that he participated in both types of bands in a very short period of time, he actually has some insight that could be of benefit to some musicians. The lying just clouds what would otherwise be a respectable musical history.

When I say "no one knows anything," I mean something very specific.

Let's take you, for example. You have done well playing bass in the corporate band environment. You know what it takes to get gigs. You know how to play it safe, and maximize the potential of music as a commercial venture. And sometimes, you have advice that is spot-on for me.

But overall, your approach to music, and to the business, are much different than mine, and in many cases, I should do precisely the opposite of what you advise. There are a lot of different paths to success; there are a lot of different approaches to art, and there are a lot of different niches for us all.

There are general advice nuggets that we all can use:

• Always play in tune
• Always show up on time for rehearsal
• Make sure to play music that fits your intended audience
• Practice hard
• Make sure and promote your venture

Etc, etc, etc. These nuggets are useful no matter who offers them. What I find on this forum are "know-it-all's" who think that because something works for them, it should work for me. In many cases, they couldn't be more wrong.

• Don't have two bassists who switch off in bands
• Don't play long "jam-type" songs
• You don't always have to mic the drum kit
• You shouldn't use a drum shield
• Try to keep them on the dance floor as much as possible

Those can be good pieces of advice, but I don't agree with any of 'em. I like to get them out on the dance floor, and occasionally CLEAR the dance floor with a more "concert-like" song. Sometimes that's perfect!


As to some of the notes about being scammed on the internet, and relationships on the internet, I am someone who DID marry someone he met on the internet. I have met people in real life I first met on the internet. That is a tiny minority of internet relationships, however. Most people are just names on a page.


No money is changing hands here. If someone listens to bone-headed advice on this forum, they will learn a VALUABLE lesson from the EXPERIENCE of having that blow up in their face! They will remember it far better having experienced it than simply being advised.


My intent is almost always to provide an alternative viewpoint to what the mainstream is saying. I don't have an issue with Forum Moderators calling out posters; there is nothing wrong with how this forum is run; in fact, it's one of the best I've run across.


However, there IS a pack mentality, and pack mentalities reek of cowardice. I do NOT do cowardice. A hero dies but once. A coward dies a thousand deaths. That may sound like a saying, but that's because it is.

Overall, I'm quoting Sgt. Hulka here, in his remarks to "Psycho."

I am practicing the art of quoting without quoting.

[JumboJack]

Originally Posted by guy n. cognito

Blue, your "return" thread has been brought to your attention time and time again, by myself and others, when you have made your "40 years" claim. Why you continue to lie about this topic is fascinating. In the past, you have claimed that that post itself was the lie, to gather interest from other TBers. Wanna go back to that story again?

Originally Posted by bluewine

Guy you no better than anyone else here, I'm maintaining my position.

BTW, I appreciate your contributions to my threads.

Respect

Blue

Blue. Either it's true or someone hacked your account 4 years ago and made a fake post about your first gig in 30 years. One thing to remember is "The internet is forever".

[Bert Slide]

"Leave your stepping stones behind, something calls for you
Forget the dead you've left, they will not follow you
The vagabond who's rapping at your door
Is standing in the clothes that you once wore
Strike another match, go start a new
And it's all over now, Baby Blue." Robert Zimmerman

[bluewine]

Originally Posted by Bert Slide

"Leave your stepping stones behind, something calls for you
Forget the dead you've left, they will not follow you
The vagabond who's rapping at your door
Is standing in the clothes that you once wore
Strike another match, go start a new
And it's all over now, Baby Blue." Robert Zimmerman

Nice!

[Febs]

Originally Posted by fmoore200

In all honesty, I give blue a ton of credit. He never takes the bait. Whether he's been in the game or not, and for however long it's been is def a question, but the amount of hazing he gets around here and never retaliates is amazing.

That's because Blue is the one doing the baiting. He is a master baiter.

[bluewine]

Originally Posted by Febs

That's because Blue is the one doing the baiting. He is a master baiter.

I've been watching the activity on the forum and the kind of issues that we deal with from the veterans to the new to the scene guys very closely.

Some of the issues are real pains to some of these guys, some are pains to me as well.

I've seen some really good advice to help out everyone from audition issues to internal band problems.I'm still passionate about all this stuff after all these years.

I take the forum a lot more seriously than I probably did 3 years ago because I've learned more and have a lot more new experience.

The negative stuff I don't pay much attention to.

blue

[ChrisB2]

Originally Posted by MatticusMania

My band has been going nowhere slowly. Time to jump ship.

LOL

[jlane72t]

Originally Posted by bluewine

I'm constantly evolving, I can feel one way about an issue or topic one week and entirely different the next.

Someone who makes public statements about a topic, but as they learn more about that topic their position changes, so they revise what they say in the future on that topic while acknowledging they learned something....that's evolving.

Someone who makes public statements about a topic, but as they learn more about that topic their position changes, so they revise what they say in the future on that topic...but when their inconsistency with their previous statements is mentioned, they give the "I don't remember saying that" blank stare in the face of direct evidence...that's not evolving, that's cowardice. That's lying like a kindergardner with crumbs on his shirt saying he doesn't know where the cookies went.

Your tactic of "the only reality about me is the reality I say it is" can kind of work if you want to cultivate the "mysterious" persona in your local scene, but on the internet where you're putting it in writing and not expecting it to pup up later...that ain't gonna work, man. All the "I don't remember that"s and "to me, that is true" and not answering direct questions about your inconsistencies have completely eroded your credibility to everyone who has read more than a couple of your posts.

Look, it's painfully obvious you're desperate to be seen as "a veteran" and viewed with whatever credibility comes with that. You bring up your age constantly. You have mentioned on these threads that you've been playing 40 years, that you're back after 30 years, that you've been playing 45 years.

What you clearly avoid talking about is...did you buy a bass at age 15, form a high school band that had good times, then life got in the way and you didn't play in a working band for 30 years, and now in your mid 40s you got back into playing bass? If that's the scenario, there's certainly nothing wrong with that, goes on all the time. But it's pretty lame to imply that you have gained 40 years of experience in bands when it was 3 years on the front end and 3 years on the back end and 34 years of nothing but talk in the middle.

[jlane72t]

I should add, (a) I think this is a good thread topic, and (b) I think Blue often has worthwhile contributions to all kinds of discussions.

I try to stay out of this kinda stuff but man, it's just painful to watch your misguided "internet personality" in action.

Oh, also (c) "just ignore my posts if you don't agree with them" goes out the window when on a forum based completely on 'advice' you watch one of the most prolific posters constantly post misguided advice and derail otherwise valuable threads.

[fmoore200]

Originally Posted by Febs

That's because Blue is the one doing the baiting. He is a master baiter.

Idk, I don't see it that way. Admittedly I don't follow blues threads all that closely, but the ones I have read he doesn't come off as argumentative.

He does repeat how many years he's been in the gigging scene, which I realize is a bit of a contentious subject around here but I think everyone already has formed their own opinion about whether they believe him or not so it seems like beating a dead horse and piling on after.. :banghead: :beer: