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Old 05-21-2007, 10:21 PM
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So last week my band completely rocked a school gig, and we have a had a few gigs spawn from it. One of them is this gig with this guy from school whos throwing a huge party and he wants my band to play for around 2 - 3 hours at this event. Sweet deal, hes going to pay us, which is another plus but should we charge? There are four guys in the band.
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Old 05-22-2007, 12:21 AM
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We charge a minimum of $100-$150 per person (we have 6) depending on distance to travel. For a good friend, I would probably forget about my part.
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Old 05-22-2007, 12:42 AM
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I'd say $300 at most if you even decide to charge.
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Old 05-22-2007, 01:24 AM
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I say, factor in gas for one person, labor that isn't involved with playing....

charge 10 an hour, and multiply that by 4 ppl?
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$10/hr per man? Yikes...

I'd do that gig for probably $300 (for my trio). More if they wanted us to learn/play covers.

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Old 05-22-2007, 02:31 AM
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$10/hr per man? Yikes...

I'd do that gig for probably $300 (for my trio). More if they wanted us to learn/play covers.

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heck, i don't know, i'm just throwing numbers out there

personally, i wouldn't know yet, i'd be happy if anyone asked me to do anything for free.
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Old 05-22-2007, 02:40 AM
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No! Bad! Go to your room!

Haha... in all seriousness, I get a little moofed (it's like miffed, but not in a bad way) when people who don't know what they're talking about give advice, especially business advice!

DO NOT play covers for free. If you're in an orignials band, and it's necessary to play for free to get exposure for your creative endeavor, go for it. If you play covers, though, you are basically a DJ, you're providing a service, and that service has value. You devalue yourself and other musicians by not charging for your service - not to mention the fact that if word gets out that you played this party for free, you will have a HECK of a time getting paid ever again for a similar gig.

Check out this thread:

would/do you play for food?

and specifically, my post @ #22

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P.S. Just realized, you are the same guy from the other thread! haha... no worries, to each his own!
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the one about food right ?

that's why I want a UB...

So i can play at a swanky hotel restaurant

food and pay....

and an excuse to talk to the piano girl
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the one about food right ?

that's why I want a UB...

So i can play at a swanky hotel restaurant

food and pay....

and an excuse to talk to the piano girl
Can't argue w/the piano girl argument

What's UB? Upright bass? (I've usually seen that as URB, if that's what you meant).

By the way, I *love* my Line6 Variax for that sort of thing. It can definitely do the upright sound, with a lot less hassle, better signal & dispersion from my Schroeder cab, and with the turn of a knob, access to 20+ other tones, from a P Bass to a Ric to a Warwick Thumb to a fretless Jazz w/flats to a Tacoma Thunderchief to a....



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Old 05-22-2007, 09:07 AM
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Remember that unless you're doing SOLID, explanable favors, for a good friend, for instance, low pricing or freebies can come back to bite you later on.

If you play this party for $100 - $200 then everyone will expect you to play for them for that amount. Do you want to go to a bar and try to negotiate with an owner who just had the guy that hired you tell them that you played for 3 hours for $200? Plus, with added cost comes a sense of greater worth. Messed up, I know, but people seem to think more highly of bands that pull $1000 a night than those that play for $300 a night regardless of talent.
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Old 05-22-2007, 09:52 AM
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I think, it goes without saying, that one should sit for a very, very long time and think this through
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:27 AM
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Are you any good?
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:35 AM
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Are you any good?
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I can't believe no one's addressed this yet. Is your buddy wanting a band for his party just so there's some live music? Does he just want to hang out with some cool musicians? Or is it a "you-guys-are-super-awesome-and-everyone's-gotta-have-you-playing-at-your-party" kinda thing?
Keep in mind, if you price yourselves too high, he may reconsider having you play, well, because maybe he didn't like you THAT much.
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Old 05-22-2007, 11:33 AM
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If only relative skill and virtuosity could be graphed with a band's asking price

that would make things so much easier.

Maybe all of the working musicians on TB should just graph their usual going rate so we can all see what the numbers turn out to be?
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Old 05-22-2007, 12:25 PM
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And how long have you/the band been playing?
You mentioned a school gig... I'm thinking high school?
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Old 05-22-2007, 12:30 PM
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uh.. he's in school, i doubt the guys going to wanna blow $300 on a band, unless he's rich in which case, 300 per man/per hour He was proably thinking more like 100-150 for the band.
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Old 05-22-2007, 09:31 PM
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yeah we are in high school and play funk / reggae music if anyone wanted to know that. We've been together for a few about a year and a half and due to inconsistant guitarist and lead singers we havn't been able to reach our full potential until about four months ago when we found a singer and guitarist perfect for our style. We played at a school battle of the bands type of thing, and alot of people said we won hands down when compared to the other bands. This gig spawned from that event, and it was basically this random kid comming up to our guitarist and asking him if we would be interested in playing for 3 hours at his house, and he said he would pay us as well.
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Old 05-22-2007, 09:48 PM
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Then start with a high dollar amount and go from there.
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:45 PM
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Then start with a high dollar amount and go from there.
How about, 10% of their annual income ???

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Old 05-22-2007, 10:53 PM
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In a case like this, I'd ask what the max they're willing to pay is, and go from there. If you can't get a reasonable rate for the band, you turn it down based on the abovementioned reasons... unless you don't mind playing for free in general. If it's for fun, then go for it...
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