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Old 03-22-2010, 09:26 PM
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how should i handle this???

my band plays indie rock......lead singer,2 guitars, bass, and drums. one of my guitar players wants a stack when he dont need it. he uses a 40 watt 112 combo right now which fills our 200 member church like a charm. i suggested a 212, but he is dead set on a stack. Right now, i run a peavey combo 115 which is also getting the job done until i get my rig together. i have a hartke 2000 head, but still need my cabs. how can i convince him to get the 2212 over the stack?
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Is he using a tube amp?
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Old 03-22-2010, 09:32 PM
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Let him get what he wants. He probably thinks you don`t need a bigger cab yourself.
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Why does he want a stack instead of the combo? Would he run the stack at the same volume as the combo in the same setting?
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Old 03-22-2010, 09:39 PM
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What difference does it make what he plays? I mean, it's his rig right?
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Old 03-22-2010, 09:40 PM
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Let him get what he wants. He probably thinks you don`t need a bigger cab yourself.
that would be stupid on his part when the standard rig for a bass player is a 410! not to mention if he gets the stack, i will need a 810 and at least 500 watts of power. im not sure what the other guitarist is getting, but i say they definately dont need it
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Old 03-22-2010, 09:41 PM
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Is he using a tube amp?
i think what hes getting is.
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Old 03-22-2010, 09:44 PM
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What difference does it make what he plays? I mean, it's his rig right?
yes it is, but then thats unfair to me. im not trying to be a girl about it, but i dont have the money for the equipment i would need to match what he has a bassist. not to mention for the the kind of music we play he dont need a full stack.
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that would be stupid on his part when the standard rig for a bass player is a 410! not to mention if he gets the stack, i will need a 810 and at least 500 watts of power. im not sure what the other guitarist is getting, but i say they definately dont need it
There is no "standard" rig for anything. I used a 2x10 combo for years in a rock band against two Marshall half stacks with no problems and it was only rocking 300 watts. Let him get what he wants. It`s his rig. Not yours. Most 2x10`s could keep up and a 4x10 could more than easily keep up with a half stack. Don`t try to tell him he can`t get what he wants. You`ll just come off sounding like a butt munch.
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Why does he want a stack instead of the combo? Would he run the stack at the same volume as the combo in the same setting?
knowing him....probably. if he wanted to carry around a stack, he should have been a bass player! lol
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my band plays indie rock......lead singer,2 guitars, bass, and drums. one of my guitar players wants a stack when he dont need it. he uses a 40 watt 112 combo right now which fills our 200 member church like a charm. i suggested a 212, but he is dead set on a stack. Right now, i run a peavey combo 115 which is also getting the job done until i get my rig together. i have a hartke 2000 head, but still need my cabs. how can i convince him to get the 2212 over the stack?
Dude...seriously?
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yes it is, but then thats unfair to me. im not trying to be a girl about it, but i dont have the money for the equipment i would need to match what he has a bassist. not to mention for the the kind of music we play he dont need a full stack.
I`m not trying to be an ***. Really, I`m not. But life isn`t always fair. Toughen up and deal with it and either save up more money or come to the realization that a 4x10 is more than enough.
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Old 03-22-2010, 09:49 PM
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There is no "standard" rig for anything. I used a 2x10 combo for years in a rock band against two Marshall half stacks with no problems and it was only rocking 300 watts. Let him get what he wants. It`s his rig. Not yours. Most 2x10`s could keep up and a 4x10 could more than easily keep up with a half stack. Don`t try to tell him he can`t get what he wants. You`ll just come off sounding like a butt munch.
ok....i still dont see the point, but ok. so why do guitarist get stacks then???? his only really reason is because it looks cool.
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Old 03-22-2010, 09:52 PM
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ok....i still dont see the point, but ok. so why do guitarist get stacks then???? his only really reason is because it looks cool.
The point is that you have nothing to worry about because:

1. You`ll be more than powerful enough anyways.
2. After 2 gigs of him having to schlep his gear all by himself he`ll realize he made a mistake and will stop bringing a full stack just for a church or bar gig.
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Old 03-22-2010, 09:55 PM
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The point is that you have nothing to worry about because:

1. You`ll be more than powerful enough anyways.
2. After 2 gigs of him having to schlep his gear all by himself he`ll realize he made a mistake and will stop bringing a full stack just for a church or bar gig.
yea your right....lol
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yea your right....lol
Really man, don`t worry about it
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My guess is that he wants a stack so he can join another band...to get away from YOU!
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Here's a suggestion: When you purchase a cab, get a pair of 2x10 cabs and stack them vertically, on their sides, to get speakers closer to your ears, and you'll hear your self just fine.
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Old 03-22-2010, 10:03 PM
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My guess is that he wants a stack so he can join another band...to get away from YOU!
well he started the band so if he did whatever. besides, the other guitarist is better anyways
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