Leaving band...I own half the PA!!

[TRichardsbass]

Take your stuff now. They are already telling you it is "popping" meaning they are setting you up for a way to offer you very little for it. Take it. You are out. It's yours. They can buy their own. If they can't afford it then tough crap.

Your other option is to rent it to tem. Since it seems more then one band is using it, rent by the month to the one who uses it most. Take a security deposit in case they damage it. You can make the rent anything you want, but if they don't pay you go and get it.

You would be tester off selling it on Craigslist.

[two fingers]

Originally Posted by temmrich

Um.. if you only own half, you are no more entitled to take it than they are. You buy them out or they buy you out. Those are the real options. If neither can afford it (which is probably why two people own it) then you have to come up with a compromise. Get with the other half owner (this means you have to leave on good terms if for no other reason than you need him to return your calls) and figure it out. You're better off talking to them, they know you, than talking to a bunch of guys that have no vested interest in the outcome.

Read the OP again please. He owns specific pieces of gear, not just half of everything. So everyone involved knows what belongs to the OP.

[Downunderwonder]

Originally Posted by two fingers

Read the OP again please. He owns specific pieces of gear, not just half of everything. So everyone involved knows what belongs to the OP.

Young'ns take note. This is the way for a band to own PA. When it splits up there is no argument over gear ownership.

[BayStateBass]

Take your specific stuff or offer to sell it to them for what it's worth. If you want the stuff for yourself just take it.

In either case make it happen quickly.

I own all 5 stage monitors and the mixing board and there's no way I'd just let the group "use" it if I left. I have some $$$ tied up there and the potential for loss is too high.

I learned a long time ago when you loan stuff out to people, they often give it back to you in far worse condition than you loaned it out it. And you can't blame anyone but yourself because you loaned it out.

[cnltb]

Originally Posted by carl h.

Out right sale or it goes with you.

+1...simple.

[AltGrendel]

Originally Posted by Floyd Eye

...They buy it or you take it home.

+1

[jonas_24112]

OP here- I can't believe a TB thread and it's pretty much a unanimous concensus on what I should. Thanks guys, I guess I knew in the back of my mind what the best thing to do is. I've been trying to figure out how to leave and make everybody happy, but in the end it won't work out that way, so I gotta leave the easiest and quickest way for me to get out.

To clarify, I outright own all the gear I've been talking about. So when I leave it will leave with me. I'm sure I'll lose a mic cord or two, but not gonna throw a fit over that.

[dalkowski]

Originally Posted by jonas_24112

I've been trying to figure out how to leave and make everybody happy, but in the end it won't work out that way, so I gotta leave the easiest and quickest way for me to get out.

You're heart's in the right place, but at the end of the day, it's your property.

(You wouldn't leave them your bass and amp to borrow for 30-60 days, would you?)

[lostcontrol_]

Just a reminder: If you decide to loan or rent your gear to them, make a written contract. If you're in good terms with them (I take it that you are) and they're good people, it shouldn't that big of a deal as it protects both parties. That leaves little room for debate if something should go wrong.

- list of gear with serial numbers for key (i.e. $$$) equipment
- outline responsibilities: who pays if something breaks
- _who_ is ultimately responsible on their side
- a reasonable timeframe when the equipment should be at your disposal when you need it
- a copy of the agreement for both parties

Seen too many "Did you have a written contract? Well, no." -posts here, regardless of the issue in each case.

[ShoeManiac]

Originally Posted by jonas_24112

OP here- I can't believe a TB thread and it's pretty much a unanimous concensus on what I should. Thanks guys, I guess I knew in the back of my mind what the best thing to do is. I've been trying to figure out how to leave and make everybody happy, but in the end it won't work out that way, so I gotta leave the easiest and quickest way for me to get out.

To clarify, I outright own all the gear I've been talking about. So when I leave it will leave with me. I'm sure I'll lose a mic cord or two, but not gonna throw a fit over that.

It's the smart play. Microphone cables are cheap. Lighting setups & speakers are another story.

The only other thing I'd offer is to get a hold of your gear from the PA as soon as possible. Don't let the situation drag out, because then things could get complicated. A clean break is definitely in your best interests.

[skidmarkbass]

I walked away from my band of 12 years with a QSC amp that we used to power our monitors and I actually used it a few times as a backup head. If they can't buy a new amp for the monitors they are pretty pathetic. Not my problem.

[BassNeo]

Originally Posted by carl h.

Out right sale or it goes with you.

The potential for mayhem is too great. You must be leaving for a reason so why would you leave your gear with them?

If they can't afford to buy it from you, how will they replace/repair it?

Originally Posted by boristhespider9

Yea, pick a price for them to buy you out, sell it, or take it. Don't tap-dance around the issue or make an unnecessarily complicated, risky or drawn-out arrangement.

Yep, your answers came in the first two replies.

[MatticusMania]

Originally Posted by temmrich

Um.. if you only own half, you are no more entitled to take it than they are. You buy them out or they buy you out. Those are the real options.

I disagree. It depends in which way he owns half. If the OP owns certain pieces, and the other guys own certain pieces, the OP is fully entitled to take his pieces of the PA.
The OPs first post makes it somewhat clear that that is the situation (though exactly which pieces he owns wasnt clear to me).

He certainly does have the option to sell the parts he does own to the band, if he should choose to do so.

Originally Posted by Downunderwonder

Young'ns take note. This is the way for a band to own PA. When it splits up there is no argument over gear ownership.

+1

The bands breaking up? Ok, Im taking my toys and going home then.

[g4string]

Originally Posted by lostcontrol_

Just a reminder: If you decide to loan or rent your gear to them, make a written contract. If you're in good terms with them (I take it that you are) and they're good people, it shouldn't that big of a deal as it protects both parties. That leaves little room for debate if something should go wrong.

- list of gear with serial numbers for key (i.e. $$$) equipment
- outline responsibilities: who pays if something breaks
- _who_ is ultimately responsible on their side
- a reasonable timeframe when the equipment should be at your disposal when you need it
- a copy of the agreement for both parties

Seen too many "Did you have a written contract? Well, no." -posts here, regardless of the issue in each case.

Bad idea. If he's gonna rent equipment, might as well point the band to a local store who rents pa equip. Or hire a soundguy till the band has enough liquid to buy the gear the op took with him. I would never rent gear to a friend. I mean what if he/she broke my gear and I had to uphold a contract? Now you're the jerk for trying to get $$, or worse yet threaten legal action. Then attorneys get involved etc etc. Not worth it IMO. Just take your gear and move on. If the band asks if they can borrow it, tell them your going to be using it for whatever new project you might have going on.

[Herrick]

If they're good dudes, they won't give you any "you know what" about you taking what's rightfully yours.

[plankspanker13]

Count me among those recommending IMMEDIATE evacuation of ALL of YOUR gear, OP. Once the others know that you are on your way out, the need to protect your own interests supersedes anything else, lest the others find a way to screw you. Get going!

[the yeti]

Originally Posted by Herrick

If they're good dudes, they won't give you any "you know what" about you taking what's rightfully yours.

even if they're not, it won't last beyond load out time.

[jonas_24112]

OP here- told BL at end of gig last night that I was leaving. He was relieved I was giving him an excuse to end it all. We both were tired of dealing with our drama queens. Got all my gear in the truck now and heading home. It's all good!!

[Bassmanbob]

That's Talkbass helping a brother out. Good job to the OP and all who responded!

[bluewine]

Originally Posted by jonas_24112

We both were tired of dealing with our drama queens.

My band, we are not friends and we don't hang.

We don't know each other well enough to get on each others nerves.

Blue