My Band Dropped the Bomb on Me

[fourstringdrums]

Well thanks to a connection I made at the gig in the video I'm meeting with another band this week that seems promising. Back on the horse. I was going to take a down time but I don't think I can do that.

[Stick_Player]

Originally Posted by bassinplace

That would lead me to believe that your understanding of rock history might perhaps be a bit tentative, but okay.

You are apparently easy to lead around, but okay.

[bassinplace]

Originally Posted by Stick_Player

You are apparently easy to lead around, but okay.

You're supposed to point the hose away from yourself before you turn it on.

[Stick_Player]

Originally Posted by bassinplace

You're supposed to point the hose away from yourself before you turn it on.

What?

Now you're babbling about garden hoses?

Is English NOT your native language?

[bassinplace]

Originally Posted by Stick_Player

What?

Now you're babbling about garden hoses?

Is English NOT your native language?

Yeah. Last time I checked this is English. Sorry if I got your pantaloons in a knot. Carry on.

[Stick_Player]

Originally Posted by bassinplace

Yeah. Last time I checked this is English. Sorry if I got your pantaloons in a knot. Carry on.

Oh yes, this is English. As far as knots, yours seem to be in a bunch. Post more entertaining retorts!

Carry on wayward son.

[bassinplace]

Originally Posted by Stick_Player

Oh yes, this is English. As far as knots, yours seem to be in a bunch. Post more entertaining retorts!

Carry on wayward son.

Don't you cry no more.

[Stick_Player]

Originally Posted by bassinplace

Don't you cry no more.

I guess you do know your "rock history".

Carry on!

[fourstringdrums]

Well this was a quick turnaround for me. I'm now playing with an alternative folk-rock group. I think I'll have a lot of fun with the music and they're a great group of guys. They remind me of a previous band who were all like family.

Another door opens..

[hrodbert696]

Congratulations! See, that was easy...

[mcnach]

Originally Posted by fourstringdrums

I think if I didn't "vibe" with them, I would never have been able to pull that off. We had a habit of changing how we would play songs from gig to gig. On the video I mentioned in my OP, I looked at it again to see what they were talking about. The guitarist started it in the wrong key, which he admits. But he started it with laid back feel, yet the tempo was where it should be. But when myself and the bassist came in, I felt that he was pulling back and I responded by laying behind the beat a little bit..again, I was listening and doing what I usually do and feeling for any shifts. They play based on how they feel at the moment and I feel I respond to that. So they commented how the tempo changed..we're talking a few bpm..nothing drastic. As we get into the pre-chorus, I feel the energy coming back up and to me it makes sense, so we go back to the tempo he originally set and we stick with it. That was what I was having an issue with there, but for the rest of the video, the bassist was having a hard time I think because it was in a different key and he wasn't getting into it. But yet this is blamed on a vibe disconnect? Aw hell, here is the video..not one of our best but it might make sense in context. It was a halloween gig, that's why we're dressed up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSzX...hannel&list=UL

It is not bad. I liked the drums, for what is worth... and the singer/guitar... that's cool. However the bass was awful
I honestly think that could have sounded good with a decent bass player... But it sounds like you're better off without them.

Congratulations on your new band!

[rkf]

My band had to kick a drummer out once like that.

He was only a temporary thing and he rubbed everyone wrong. The thing that no one could stand about him though was that he was always overly flashy with fills and he constantly dropped the tempo while trying to show off in front of crowds.

[EvilJekyll]

Originally Posted by mcnach

It is not bad. I liked the drums, for what is worth... and the singer/guitar... that's cool. However the bass was awful
I honestly think that could have sounded good with a decent bass player... But it sounds like you're better off without them.

Congratulations on your new band!

+1

The guitar/singer definitely set the pace/tone, you followed well. There were points where the drum/bass were out vibe at a few points, but no more than usual for a live improv group. Especially one that starts on the "wrong" key. The bassist was definitely thrown by that.

[fourstringdrums]

Originally Posted by EvilJekyll

+1

The guitar/singer definitely set the pace/tone, you followed well. There were points where the drum/bass were out vibe at a few points, but no more than usual for a live improv group. Especially one that starts on the "wrong" key. The bassist was definitely thrown by that.

Well I'm definitely in a stronger group of musicians now. The bassist in the group I just joined up with is a much more solid and melodic player. Not to knock my old bassist's talent, but I'm a much better fit with the new guy.

Any bassist who uses the barney miller theme as a warmup and is thrilled that the drummer knows what it is will be a long lasting relationship lol

[frapbass]

Wow. This thread seems like a big rant session, but at least I found some good music out of it. I checked out the band from the links posted. Who played bass on the tracks on the facebook page? Cuz the guy on there seems half-way decent.

Anywho... good luck with your new band.

[fourstringdrums]

Originally Posted by frapbass

Who played bass on the tracks on the facebook page? Cuz the guy on there seems half-way decent.

Anywho... good luck with your new band.

The same guy as in the videos.

[floodwatchbass]

Hello, Talkbass community. My name is James White, and I'm the bassist for the band Floodwatch. I've been aware of this thread for a while but--despite being labeled a "drama queen" by a couple of folks in this thread--I've stayed out of it.

While there are a number of inaccuracies in Rob's initial post, as well as in his follow-up replies, we're all entitled to our own version of the truth, right? However, one item has bugged me since I read it and I just can't let it go:

Originally Posted by fourstringdrums

Well we "vibed" really well right away. We met for lunch, and then when we got along in person. I auditioned, and they asked me to play a gig that was going to be in 2 weeks. I did the gig, that went well and then we started recording. Most of the tunes I had never heard before and were essentially jams as far as I was concerned. That became our cd.

It's the "were essentially jams... became our CD" comment that I can't let stand, basically out of a concern for protecting copyrights. There isn't a single song on the album in question that was written during Rob's tenure. Not one. Every single song had been written as early as several months and as late as several years prior to Rob's arrival. In fact, all of them had been demoed and performed live in several different arrangements. Out of the nine songs (out of 13) that Rob plays on, five were mostly complete, with his drums being added as an overdub to existing arrangements. The remaining four were tracked "live" with him but the arrangements had already been in development since 2009. Not jams. Not a one.

I'm sure many of you will label me, once again, as a drama queen for this response. I could care less, truly. All I wanted to do here was clear up authorship.

Have a nice day.

[fourstringdrums]

This thread should just be deleted. I'm actually sorry I posted it

[fourstringdrums]

Originally Posted by hrodbert696

PM a mod if you want to delete the thread.

I did, no response.

[Stewie26]

Originally Posted by MrLenny1

That's a bummer man.
I worked with a band for a year, gave them a lot of time.
They replaced me without telling me, saw them gigging out with a new bass player.
Time to move on brother.

Wow..that would sting a little.