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05-06-2010, 11:35 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Seattle, WA | | | No Moniters?
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Ok so I have a gig tomorrow and at the last moment the guy who was supposed to be providing the PA just informed us we wouldn't have on stage moniters. I've never played a show without them so I don't know what to do. Any tricks/ways of arranging the stage so that we'll all hear each other? We have a singer, two guitarists, myself, and a drummer.
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05-07-2010, 06:27 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Detroit area, Troy, MI | | | Stay close, keep stage volume under control, and instruments will be ok. Singers will be SOL.
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05-07-2010, 06:34 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kansas City, MO | | | Any place in town to rent some monitors? |
05-07-2010, 06:47 AM
|  | Yeah, I've got the moves like Jagger. | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: G.R. MI | | | Don't unpack your vocal mic. No good will come from trying to sing without monitors.
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05-07-2010, 06:50 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Minnesota - Twin Cities | | | find an old solid state guitar amp.. you can use this..
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05-07-2010, 07:08 AM
| | | | You let the promotors know that at the last minute you were informed that they had inadequately planned for their event and that they not only don't have monitors, they also don't have a band.
Don't let other people set you up to fail. They were just being lazy or cheap or both.
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05-07-2010, 07:18 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cottage Grove, St. Paul suburb | | | Wait until after the show and inform the putz there'll be no money for him. |
05-07-2010, 07:37 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Columbus, OH | | | Without monitors, there may be no money for you either. I would walk. If you have to do it, find a single monitor and get it to the vocalist. |
05-07-2010, 07:50 AM
| | | I concur with the majority here....
No monitors...No show. 
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05-07-2010, 07:54 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Seattle, WA | | | Alright thanks. This is going to be an interesting show. I can't really cancel because it's a charity event but maybe I can bring a few 20 watt amps and work something out.
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05-07-2010, 07:58 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Brooklyn, N.Y. | |  so, no monitors....
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Originally Posted by chokeslam512 Any place in town to rent some monitors? | Really !!!....take it out out of the soundman's cut....
I would not blow off a gig because of no monitors. Any speaker cab will do in a pinch,even if it's just one.
What would you do if the monitors failed at the gig?
Stuff happens all the time. Improvise. It's part of being a professional.
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05-07-2010, 10:07 AM
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05-07-2010, 10:22 AM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Fairfax, VA USA | | | time for a new soundman, assuming that the PA is his and you hired him to do the gig. Then again, if its a charity gig, maybe soundman was already working for free... We pay our sound guys $450 and up. No monitors = we hire another company and probably never hire monitor boy again. |
05-07-2010, 10:25 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: sin city baby... | | | I've played without monitors pretty much all through the punk rock glory days of the 80's
no big deal, manage your stage volume
turn the mains in slightly
don't panic
Rock On!
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05-07-2010, 10:26 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: West Covina (LA), SoCal | | | Ive played tons fo shopws without monitor.
One thing you can do is set up the main speakers slightly behind the band. Give yourself enough headroom that the vocal mics are not pointing directly at the speakers, though.
Like others said, if you have some speakers or can rent some monitors, do that.
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05-07-2010, 10:33 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NYC | | Quote:
Originally Posted by DeluxeRed Welcome to the music biz, where if you're not a shark, you're food. | the sad truth!
the reality is, if this is a new venue for you and you do the gig and suck. it reflects badly on your band - NOT the sound guy. |
05-07-2010, 10:51 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Leeds, England | | | I do gigs all the time without monitors. Have you tried just turning on stage down a bit so you can hear each other? The audience will be able to hear you loud and fine trough the PA. You just need to worry about hearing yourselves.
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05-07-2010, 10:51 AM
|  | I Know Nothing | | Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Columbia River Gorge, WA. | | | Just do an instrumental set? |
05-07-2010, 12:31 PM
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Endorsing Artist: J.C. Basses | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Phoenix, Arizona 85029 | | | I've done it, and it sucks.
Instruments are no problem - if the guy can mix for FOH, that's all you need.
Vocals - I can never hear myself WITH monitors (save once or twice), so I imagine it would be just as bad or worse without them.
Tell your singer to buy some IEMs. Vocalists never have comparable amounts of gear anyways.
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05-07-2010, 02:07 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Long Island, NY | | Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicRay What would you do if the monitors failed at the gig?
Stuff happens all the time. Improvise. | Exactly! I'm really suprised at people saying not to play the gig..  | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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