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Old 03-14-2011, 11:58 AM
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Just wanted to vent. You guys know how psyched I get about bands and performing live. I know many area originals bands and make it a habit of going out to their shows to support them.

I invited at least 10 peers who are in bands that I support and go to their shows.

Not one of the people I invited showed up to our show on Saturday.

For right now they are on my *&^t list. We drew 100 people paying 10.00 to get in. Who needs em, that’s what I say.

Anyone else go through this type of thing?
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Did you offer to comp them in, Blue? I never pay cover to see local friends play, personally. But I go to every show I can (if I like the band), I spend plenty in the club and tip well, and I would gladly comp any musician friends who come to see me play if there were a cover.
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All my musician friends are too busy being musicians to come out to shows. Those that aren't playing, are taking the rare weekend night off to spend with their families.
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Old 03-14-2011, 12:38 PM
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It sucks but it's tough to depend on your fellow musicians for support. I try to do my fair share of going out and seeing shows, and I don't hold it against people if they don't see my shows. They do however go to the bottom of the "favor list" as far as bands to choose from when we need somebody to share the stage with us.

Ideally you want to attract the people who are going out anyway. 100 people at $10 each is impressive for an original band, congratulations!
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All my musician friends are too busy being musicians to come out to shows. Those that aren't playing, are taking the rare weekend night off to spend with their families.
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I never count on musicians to be my draw.
Jive, this is about suport from peers , we had a decent draw without them. You knew that when you read the post.
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They all Knew I had them comped at the door by name. They are all at the bottom of my favors list and it will be a cold day in()* before I go to one of their shows again.
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They all Knew I had them comped at the door by name. They are all at the bottom of my favors list and it will be a cold day in()* before I go to one of their shows again.
Yeah, what goes around comes around. Sorry to hear that, but at least you drew well on the civilian side.
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I like to show support for other musicians & I like it when they do the same for me. I'm like you; I think I give more than I get in that dept. At the same time, everybody has their own schedules, responsibilities, etc. so I can't very well hold anybody else to my own standards. I like to think that I'm building a supply of "social capital" that could be handy someday, if it's needed.
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I even played the “nice guy” sent an e-mail indicating I understand why you couldn’t make it and told them the show went well, hope to se you soon.

I have not heard a word back from any of these Morons.

I should have included this;

BTW, don’t bother sending me any invites to your up coming shows. Would love to come but, I’ll be washing my hair.


Like you probably have picked up on from some of my post, I am very critical of certain aspects of this business. This is a prime example of the differences between generations. A lot of these guys are rookies and will remain rookies, they don’t get it. They don’t understand Rock & Roll from an etiquette, dues and in many cases from any sort of musical perspective.
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Old 03-14-2011, 02:12 PM
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Just wanted to vent. You guys know how psyched I get about bands and performing live. I know many area originals bands and make it a habit of going out to their shows to support them.

I invited at least 10 peers who are in bands that I support and go to their shows.

Not one of the people I invited showed up to our show on Saturday.

For right now they are on my *&^t list. We drew 100 people paying 10.00 to get in. Who needs em, that’s what I say.

Anyone else go through this type of thing?
go through what......why should anyone feel obligated to spend any time and money watching you......time to get used to the notion that the world revolves around the sun,not you or your band....
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I think you're being way too harsh.

By your standards here, then I'm a moron and should be on most of my fellow musicians' $%^& list....


People do have other things to do, families, commitments - just cuz YOU have the free time and schedule to go out and see everyone else all the time doesn't mean they all do, especially since you seem to be basing this on ONE night, ONE show.


I can't possibly guess what each of these people had to do so they couldn't make it, or if they just blew you off, but it'd be much more fair to base this kind of atitude towards 'all the people' on maybe you 1st couple months of shows, and then see who is supporting you.
I have friends who have been playing out for the past YEAR and I have not yet had a chance to catch their shows, either because I'm playing, or family stuff, or when I actually DO have a night off, they are playing out of town.

Just my $.02....
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I make an effort to see local bands, especially when i know them, but my family comes first. All my real friends know this & are pretty much in the same boat.
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I learned this a long time ago. Other bands I have been in or bands started by members in past bands send me e-invites all the time but do you think they will ever come to a show of mine ..Nope! I did go to a few of their shows over the years then quit over much of the same reasons Blue is feeling. Allot of it I feel is snubbing you for going on without them or they feel if they support you they are not being true to their band..I dont know. Its not that they have families to sit with cuz allot are out running around on weekends they dont play.
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it seems to me you're just looking for a reason to be offended. i check out bands 'cos i want to, if i have the time. there's certainly no expectation on my part that anyone has to reciprocate. clearly you have that expectation and that's cool, but i'm guessing a big portion of "the 10" feel like i do or similar, and the rest probably got jammed up. maybe one of the 10 actually was "sending a message", but i doubt it.
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Old 03-14-2011, 02:34 PM
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It may be disappointing, but life's too short to invest in such petty bitterness.
People are busy and have a million choices for how to spend their time, and nobody owes me any of it.
So I try to keep my expectations humble. I'm far too grateful for anyone showing up to waste energy getting upset at someone who didn't.
I won't let someone's absence detract from reveling in the awesomeness of those who actually made it to a gig.
Taking it personally is probably not worth the drama.
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It may be disappointing, but life's too short to invest in such petty bitterness.
People are busy and have a million choices for how to spend their time, and nobody owes me any of it.
So I try to keep my expectations humble. I'm far too grateful for anyone showing up to waste energy getting upset at someone who didn't.
I won't let someone's absence detract from reveling in the awesomeness of those who actually made it to a gig.
Taking it personally is probably not worth the drama.
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Old 03-14-2011, 02:50 PM
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All my musician friends are too busy being musicians to come out to shows. Those that aren't playing, are taking the rare weekend night off to spend with their families.
This is truth. You come off as very prickly and demanding in this post. As someone said above, you seem to be looking for reasons to get. Just because you have free time to attend 10 separate shows doesn't mean everyone does.
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Maybe they really don't like you.... Just sayin'.
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