obligations of a subbing bassist

Duck Stab · #1 03-25-2008, 08:23 PM

I was asked by some L.A. band to sub in for their bassist at a gig in April. It seems that the place we'll be practicing at is a rent by the hour rehearsal space. Am I obligated, as a "filling in" bassist, to provide funds for said rehearsal space, or is the the actual band member's responsibility? Thanks

funkometer · #2 03-25-2008, 08:36 PM

Hell no! Dont pay squat!

69nites · #3 03-25-2008, 08:37 PM

why on earth would you pay to do them a favour?

logicman69 · #4 03-25-2008, 08:38 PM

I would offer to pay, since I am the one using the space with them (since it is a pay-per-hour). If they said "Don't worry about it" then at least I offered.

superjesus · #5 03-25-2008, 08:52 PM

I wouldn't pay. You're doing them the favor.

They asked you to sub for the band, not be in the band. You're a "hired gun."

Duck Stab · #6 03-25-2008, 09:06 PM

maybe I should have mentioned this before, but I am getting paid. Does this make a difference?

Aaron J · #7 03-25-2008, 09:28 PM

I agree...you are a hired gun...there is no need for you to pay. You are helping both this band and the bassist out. I have never subbed with a band and been expected to help with their overhead. Just show up on time and have a blast.

**Freddels** · #8 03-25-2008, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Duck Stab

maybe I should have mentioned this before, but I am getting paid. Does this make a difference?

No, it doesn't make a difference. Sometimes the bass player will pay the sub out of his/her pocket for the gig. For example, let's say that the sub expects a minimum of $150 per gig and the gig only pays $75. Well, someone has to come up with the difference.

I remember years ago, my band's keyboard player quit just before a gig (the band would play at this frat house once a month in exchange for rehearsal space). The sub keyboard player wanted to be paid and we had to come up with the cash or go without a keyboard player.

Duck Stab · #9 03-25-2008, 10:35 PM

thanks alot you guys. I won't be paying a dime

makaky · #10 03-26-2008, 06:18 AM

You should be getting paid for practices no other way around

**baba** · #11 03-26-2008, 07:06 AM

Do not pay!

buzzbass · #12 03-26-2008, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Duck Stab

I was asked by some L.A. band to sub in for their bassist at a gig in April. It seems that the place we'll be practicing at is a rent by the hour rehearsal space. Am I obligated, as a "filling in" bassist, to provide funds for said rehearsal space, or is the the actual band member's responsibility? Thanks

no way, unless you're making big $$$ for the sub gig.

unclekebm · #13 03-26-2008, 12:08 PM

i agree with all the above posts...as long as they said NO, it is NOT your obligation to pay.
it is always the band leaders obligation unless some other deal is worked out in advance.

cheers

69nites · #14 03-26-2008, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by unclekebm

i agree with all the above posts...as long as they said NO, it is NOT your obligation to pay.
it is always the band leaders obligation unless some other deal is worked out in advance.

cheers

I knew you were getting paid.

the bill gets split between the band.

are you a member of the band?

Duck Stab · #15 03-26-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 69nites

I knew you were getting paid.

the bill gets split between the band.

are you a member of the band?

No, I'm not a member of the band, I was just asked to play bass for this one gig and I would get paid for it. That's all.

69nites · #16 03-26-2008, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Duck Stab

No, I'm not a member of the band, I was just asked to play bass for this one gig and I would get paid for it. That's all.

not a member of the band=not obligated to pay for rehearsal space

denhou1974 · #17 03-26-2008, 01:07 PM

I wouldn't pay. In fact, I know muscians that expect to be paid for rehearsals (for sub gigs)! Let alone them pay you for rehearsal space.

unclekebm · #18 03-26-2008, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 69nites

I knew you were getting paid.

the bill gets split between the band.

are you a member of the band?

i'm not sure if you're asking me or the OP...
in my cover band, i'm the main cat. if and when a rehearsal is called up, the band leader pays for the space, they (married couple) already take a cut off the top, so they pay for things like rehearsal, promo material, etc...if i'm subbing for another band, they hire me to fill in and i don't (shouldn't) pay for anything. sometimes i get paid to rehearse as a sub.

in my original band, the pay gets split evenly so everyone puts in $ for rehearsal space...

69nites · #19 03-26-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by unclekebm

i'm not sure if you're asking me or the OP...
in my cover band, i'm the main cat. if and when a rehearsal is called up, the band leader pays for the space, they (married couple) already take a cut off the top, so they pay for things like rehearsal, promo material, etc...if i'm subbing for another band, they hire me to fill in and i don't (shouldn't) pay for anything. sometimes i get paid to rehearse as a sub.

in my original band, the pay gets split evenly so everyone puts in $ for rehearsal space...

no I wasn't asking you.

inside a band that would all be determined by how the various band members want it.

just like they would decide how much they want to pay this guy to sub.

if they wanted to they could have said we'll pay you x amount taking into account for rehearsal.

but to actually expect someone who isn't in the band to pay to rehearse would be ridiculous

The Golden Boy · #20 03-26-2008, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 69nites

but to actually expect someone who isn't in the band to pay to rehearse would be ridiculous

true dat

Imagine, after a couple of rehearsals, the money you "made" would already be spent.