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Old 12-10-2012, 07:22 AM
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This thread should be closed.
I figure we should keep it open until we can get an update on what the final resolution is.
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I figure we should keep it open until we can get an update on what the final resolution is.
Open forever, then!
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Open forever, then!
Or next week. Y'know, whichever comes first.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:33 AM
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I think the obvious next step is to go back to apologize to the guy and beg for his approval once again.

The instrument is forever lost - so may as well collect on the REAL price that was agreed upon when it exchanged hands.

Maybe bring him a McBacon croissant with tots or something.
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Or perhaps offer him the use of another guitar?
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:25 PM
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I have one simple rule that has served me well during my 49 years. Do not get in a fight unless it is something worth dying for or killing for. Anything can happen in a fight. They are not choreographed like in the movies. A simple punch to the jaw and someone falls wrong and you could be sitting in a cell but hey, you weren't no punk! Violence is only the answer if you are protecting your life or a loved ones. I am no pacifist, 5 years in the Infantry and as you can see in my picture a pretty big boy, and I have used that kind of common sense to keep my buddies out of stupid bar fights.

For the OP, chalk it up as a lesson learned. For me Karma means bad things will happen to those guys without you doing anything. The best revenge is living well. Good luck.
Agreed. Hopefully it's just internet talk and people aren't actually stupid enough to come to blows over something like this.

I had a pretty high profile player pull this crap on me and eventually the threat of filing a police report made him decide to do something with my bass... supposedly trade it to someone else, who put it in a store on consignment. I got the bass back through no help from the perp.

The entire time I made a point of not being anywhere near this clown other than one encounter at a NAMM show. If something happened to him I'm pretty sure I'd be on a short list of suspects (though it may have been a pretty long short list) and I'm not going to screw up my life over some gear... it's far too easy to replace.

It would be nice if someone learns something from this thread but I'm not holding my breath.
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:29 PM
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As opposed to just rolling over and letting someone steal from me? No, you go over there and get your stuff back. Maybe it's not the best idea anyone ever had, but it works. Thieves are generally cowards, and easily intimidated when they see someone's not playing around. Me, I'm not trusting enough to lend things like that in the first place, but I'll bet this is the last time the OP dies that either.
And cowards do things like shoot people they're afraid of. Good luck, cowboy.
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Thank you for assuming that about me. I have none, I'm simply two hours away and in the middle of finals week. Next week, as soon as the guy who's bass got "lost" gets back in town from Lubbock, me him and the other are filing a police report, and filing a claim in small claims court. We all feel like we'll have better chances if we do it as a group
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In my experience, every time I've filed a police report the cops from the district did come out and talk to me.

And yes, that was one of the bigger mistakes of my life thus far
It's not really an assumption, is it?
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It's not really an assumption, is it?
Ahhh now I see the issue. That was just bad verbiage on my part. Filing the police report was not the mistake I was referencing, loaning my guitar to my band was the mistake.
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Cool.

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I can't believe nobody's gotten their a** whooped yet. If someone had my property and I knew where they lived I'd call the cops first, if that didn't work I'd be over there with a bat, a gun, and 3 or 4 very large friends.
Agreed. The split second that he told you you're guitar is "Missing", you should've hit the nearest train, bus, enterprise car, etc, gone to that house or whever he lived at the time and kick some f***ing ass!

Let me take a quote from the great and timeless movie Billy Madison:

"Whoa, whoa, whoa, Ms. Lippy. The part of the story I don't like is that the little boy gave up looking for Happy after an hour. He didn't put posters up or anything. He just sat on the porch like a goon and waited. That little boy's got to think, 'You've got a pet; you've got a responsibility.' If your dog is lost, you don't look for an hour and then call it quits. YOU GET YOUR ASS OUT THERE AND YOU FIND THAT ****ING DOG!!!!!"

Take some assertive action. They won't take legal action against you for whupping this guy's ass. What could he say?
"He kicked my ass because I stole his guitar and pawned it for drug money." In that case you also win.
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:49 PM
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Agreed. The split second that he told you you're guitar is "Missing", you should've hit the nearest train, bus, enterprise car, etc, gone to that house or whever he lived at the time and kick some f***ing ass!

Let me take a quote from the great and timeless movie Billy Madison:

"Whoa, whoa, whoa, Ms. Lippy. The part of the story I don't like is that the little boy gave up looking for Happy after an hour. He didn't put posters up or anything. He just sat on the porch like a goon and waited. That little boy's got to think, 'You've got a pet; you've got a responsibility.' If your dog is lost, you don't look for an hour and then call it quits. YOU GET YOUR ASS OUT THERE AND YOU FIND THAT ****ING DOG!!!!!"

Take some assertive action. They won't take legal action against you for whupping this guy's ass. What could he say?
"He kicked my ass because I stole his guitar and pawned it for drug money." In that case you also win.
Yes, this is in no way ridiculous.
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It just sounds like you've waited too long. By this point, it could have made it into a pawn shop, sold to someone else, and won't show for another year or so until it possibly hits another pawn shop/craigslist.

Time to accept it as a loss and move on...
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It just sounds like you've waited too long. By this point, it could have made it into a pawn shop, sold to someone else, and won't show for another year or so until it possibly hits another pawn shop/craigslist.

Time to accept it as a loss and move on...
The third guy just found out about his amp though. So now we're doing small claims as a means to hopefully get financial compensation. The guy who lost his bass's dad and uncle, as I've already said, both are attorneys and have said that we have a pretty good chance at winning.
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Well best of luck to you, hopefully all goes well. Sometimes winning in court means nothing though, especially if you're dealing with broke druggies. Again though, best of luck.
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Well best of luck to you, hopefully all goes well. Sometimes winning in court means nothing though, especially if you're dealing with broke druggies. Again though, best of luck.
I understand that, but given his previous record of various felonies etc, I'm quite sure his dad (whom he still lives with) will step in to keep him out of trouble. Also, they, my old band, are AFAIK making a small amount of money on a weekly basis with their shows.

If not, then I filed the police report, did the small claims procedure, and if a fight were to happen to break out in a pit at a show we both happen to be at (which happens without fail at every local show), well, those things just happen.
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Fair enough. Lol... pit accidents...
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