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Old 09-18-2009, 08:28 AM
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Nick's thread inspired me to post my experience and I didn't want to hijack his thread.

Long post but I found that other TBers stories help so much in realizing that we're not along. So, I'm in a very similar position to Nick. I'm 36 but very much a late bloomer. Demanding job, wife, three kids, etc. I'm preparing for my second 'real audition tonight.

My backstory is that I had jammed on bass in high school with some buddies, nothing serious. Went to college and hadn't picked it up for years. Fast forward like 15 years and I'm hanging with one of my buddies from high school in his new band. He's having problems with his bass player and that their stuff is really simple. He suggested that I pick bass up again. Well that started the bug. He landed me a nice MIM Jazz, helped me with some basics. Well his band fizzled and he got married again....I'm on my own but determined.

So I try out for a band after a few months in the basement. Original band was retooling and played some really good covers and originals. I would be the oldest member by far, but what the heck age never really mattered to me. I met and tried out, I found that experience to be very intimidating. The band was great and absolutely professional, but my confidence tanked after the first song and I got myself flustered. Needless-to-say I did not get the gig. But I handled it professionally and have kept in contact with the guitarist regularly. He was very supportive and is an absolute excellent guitarist and person. He's given me very good advice since I met with him. Now I'm helping him prepare for his first kid....

After that I went back to the basement. Tinkered around and kept learning. I posted an ad on Craigs. I just wanted to start a garage band to give me more experience working in a band environment. I found a lot of people were in the same boat. I landed with a guitarist and drummer in the area. We kept going for about a year, retooling as needed. Played some covers and originals but got majorly derailed when we brought in another guitarist and the band fizzled out since we made no progress. Work scheduled changed, original guitarist was having a baby, time to move on. I still keep in regular contact with the original guitarist from this project.

Picked up with the former drummer and another guitarist and just jammed for fun for the past 8 months. Swapped drummers due to schedules early on and brought in a friend of the guitarist and kept going. We had a nice power three piece with an on/off singer. It was a blast. Now the guitarist has a new job with a wacky rotating schedule. Drummer is having home issues. So my current project has just crumbled.

Seeing the writing on the wall a few months ago (when the guitarist took the new job) I reached out to a local band that was looking for a bassist. I explained my situation and just wanted to make contact. I reached back out to them about 2 weeks ago and have an audition with the new band tonight (9/18). The new band is very local (5 minutes away instead of 30), same age bracket, same obligations with family and work (drummer's son and my daughter are in the same class it turns out - met him at the school's open house). They have a very cool practice schedule (every other Friday night 630-930 with emphasis on individual practice and band rehearsal). Ran into the guitarist/singer at the grocery store 2 weeks ago- same goals and objectives (play hard rock, have fun, record and play out very a few times when ready). So it seems like a good fit all around. The audition songs are pretty good and not very difficult. All alternative rock stuff. I'm really excited as it seems like the perfect situation. I've met 2 of the members already and they are people I would hang with regardless. I've already been asked to hang with them after the audition for the rest of the session and join them for a beer after (no drinking during which is fine with me).

I've used the past few years developing and learning and picking up quality equipment. I think I'm prepared and I believe I have a very good shot at getting the spot. My biggest concern is overthinking in the audition. I know I'm prone to do this. I know the songs, I played 3 previously and worked on 2 more on my own before. Only had to learn one cold and it's the easiest song on the list (save me - shinedown). I already know from my garage band experience that when I'm comfortable I feel the song and let it fly, but when I'm nervous I think way too much.

Any advice for overthinking? Its a personality trait. I'm a consultant and analyst by profession and have been conditioned to think of every angle. That's why I have just locked in with the bass. It's creative and about feel (to me at least). If they said 'hey let's just get together and jam tonight' I would be very relaxed but as an audition all aspects of my thinking brain on overload.

Long post but hopefully there is some information and inspiration for others. I'll post the outcome tonight or tomorrow. Keep at it, things happen for a reason.
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Old 09-18-2009, 08:35 AM
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Old 09-18-2009, 08:55 AM
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Go with the mindset of enjoying yourself. I find that when I am doing an auditon and get into the music (move around a little to show that you are enjoying yourself) it goes along way with how you are perceived. Remember a band is not only looking for a good player, but also someone that they can get along with on a personal note. When you get into the music I find it takes the edge off with everyone.

Bottom line is to try and have fun and the audition will take care of itself.

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Old 09-18-2009, 09:42 AM
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Thanks for the support.....on top of this I have a major customer presentation/webinar this afternoon.....what a day. Hoping I land a large customer and a new band!
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Old 09-18-2009, 12:38 PM
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Old 09-18-2009, 03:51 PM
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Great story. I have no advice that hasn't already been given. It's cool that you know the other band members at least a little and have some things in common. A lot better than going in cold with people you never met. And you know the music. Relax, have fun, nail it.
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Old 09-18-2009, 04:03 PM
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You sound more than ready, and the situation you've chosen sounds pretty great for you (folks of similar age with jobs are more likely to be looking for a good guy who plays well enough for the material than for "the right look combined with the next Billy Sheehan").
Have a great time. My sense is this gig is yours, amigo.
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Old 09-18-2009, 05:49 PM
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I think you'll fit in fine. It sounds like they are lucky and will be very happy to have you.

Be sure to let us know how it goes.

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Yup, sounds like a good fit to me, just be yourself, and play the music. Most importantly, HAVE FUN.
Let us know when you find out you got the gig.
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Old 09-19-2009, 06:07 AM
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Thanks for all the advice and encouragement.

I'm in. They asked me to join last night.

I didn't nail the audition but I did damn good. I missed a few bits but played through. was prepared and it showed. I started out a little nervous, but they were really relaxed so we sailed through the songs. I might not have been the best player they auditioned but I was told I'm the best fit. I had the right attitude and was prepared.

I'm in! We went out afterward and talked through the 'plan' in more detail. They are very open and relaxed. I can bring ideas in and it's very much a democracy. They have a plan and it's a very realistic one.

Best part is they have a fully equipped practice/studio complete with a bass rig and full recording capabilities. I won't have to lug anything other than my basses and 'go' bag. My back is already saying thanks :-)

YEAH!
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Old 09-19-2009, 06:09 AM
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Oh yeah....I think I nailed my presentation for work too....now if I can land that P bass trade this weekend I will have made the trifecta......ha
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Woo Hoo............

Congratulations. From the way you described the group / guys / goals etc. it sounds like you should have a fun ride..

Please keep us posted after the next reheasal?
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Old 09-19-2009, 06:24 AM
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Congrats !

I KNEW you had it in you. It was just a matter of going through the normal worries and anxieties.
Not to slight your abilities but sometimes attitude can be worth much more than raw talent.
I'm very excited for you and wish you all the best success and growth with the new band. Congratulations again.
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:45 AM
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Thanks again all.

I know about one set of their songs, need to pick up the other pretty quickly and we're putting together a third list (with my input). Should be a very fun ride. All guys are very professional but still have great senses of humor and are relaxed. Looking forward to this.....
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Yup, sounds like a good fit to me, just be yourself, and play the music. Most importantly, HAVE FUN.
Let us know when you find out you got the gig.
^ I told you so... Congrats. brother, keep us posted.



Oh yeah, and don't forget pics.
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