Rehearsal space: bathrooms

[pondscum29]

I'm looking for someone in CA that knows their building codes. We are part of a co-op that rents what amounts to little more than a garage for rehearsal space (commercial zone). The property is owned by the tenant in the forward building - where the bathroom is. Since there are several bands, someone had apparently been using the facilities and tripping the silent alarm in the forward building. False alarm = fees by the alarm co. There were so many occurrences, that the landlord cut off bathroom access. But is that even legal if we are being charged rent? They said they might provide a port-a-john, which would work, but I just want to check since we were not the offending band (so far as I know).

I've just floated the idea of separate codes for each band, then hit the offending band with the fee. So I'll see what comes of that. Last thing I want to do is piss off the landlord - they've been really good to us and actually picked up the tab on the alarm fees. I'm a reasonable guy and really just want to reach a solution that's amicable for all. I'd just hate the be the person who an hour beforehand, ate something that disagreed.

[Stewie26]

Interesting issue. It depends how he is representing the property. Let's say he is renting the space out as a storage space. In this case he would not have to supply
toilet facilities. But if he is renting the space for some type of occupancy he should supply a bathroom. With that said, probably the best solution is to rent a portable toilet and keep the law and building codes out of it as this will only piss everyone off.

[tbsodsmuck]

curious...is it Godlike studios?

[pondscum29]

Originally Posted by tbsodsmuck

curious...is it Godlike studios?

Nope. Just some little place off the grid. I heard Godlike is less than Godlike, but that's just hearsay AFAIK.

[NYCbassist]

Anyone renting a space intended for hours and hours of use should have bathroom access. Even if you have to pay a few bucks extra for the "cleaning Lady/Man".

[Joe Louvar]

It really all depends on your rental lease/agreement. FWIW: If there is no clean bathroom available - personally, I’d rehearse/rent elsewhere. Good luck.

Originally Posted by pondscum29

I'm looking for someone in CA that knows their building codes. We are part of a co-op that rents what amounts to little more than a garage for rehearsal space (commercial zone). The property is owned by the tenant in the forward building - where the bathroom is. Since there are several bands, someone had apparently been using the facilities and tripping the silent alarm in the forward building. False alarm = fees by the alarm co. There were so many occurrences, that the landlord cut off bathroom access. But is that even legal if we are being charged rent? They said they might provide a port-a-john, which would work, but I just want to check since we were not the offending band (so far as I know).

I've just floated the idea of separate codes for each band, then hit the offending band with the fee. So I'll see what comes of that. Last thing I want to do is piss off the landlord - they've been really good to us and actually picked up the tab on the alarm fees. I'm a reasonable guy and really just want to reach a solution that's amicable for all. I'd just hate the be the person who an hour beforehand, ate something that disagreed.

[Feral Feline]

Originally Posted by pondscum29

I'm looking for someone in CA that knows their building codes. We are part of a co-op that rents what amounts to little more than a garage for rehearsal space (commercial zone). The property is owned by the tenant in the forward building - where the bathroom is. Since there are several bands, someone had apparently been using the facilities and tripping the silent alarm in the forward building. False alarm = fees by the alarm co. There were so many occurrences, that the landlord cut off bathroom access. But is that even legal if we are being charged rent? They said they might provide a port-a-john, which would work, but I just want to check since we were not the offending band (so far as I know).

I've just floated the idea of separate codes for each band, then hit the offending band with the fee. So I'll see what comes of that. Last thing I want to do is piss off the landlord - they've been really good to us and actually picked up the tab on the alarm fees. I'm a reasonable guy and really just want to reach a solution that's amicable for all. I'd just hate the be the person who an hour beforehand, ate something that disagreed.

If someone's tripping the alarm, then they're not using the entry code. So it doesn't matter if each band has its own entry code when someone forgets to enter the code, trips the alarm... well, then how do you know which band tripped the alarm and dole out the fee?

Anyway, good luck with sorting out your facilities.

[pondscum29]

^^ yeah, I wrote this late and realized the flaw in logic after it was posted.

[metlman72]

I am not understanding the code. If the landlord has given you the code to use the bathroom, why even have it? I don't have a lot of requirements when it comes to a rehearsal space. A bathroom is definitely one of them. You guys should look for a new rehearsal spot. I would not be entering a code to use the bathroom.
I would think there has to be a better studio/ facility out there for your band to practice in.

[pondscum29]

The restroom is in the front office, which has a silent alarm. You're supposed to deactivate it, then reactivate it when the band leaves at night. Prob was some were not deactivating it, thus tripping the alarm, or not reactivating it/locking the door when they leave. The security company then charges a fee for false alarms. Landlord has been eating those fees, doing everyone a favor, but it's become chronic. So RR access has been revoked due to some bands not following SOP. In short, everyone suffers due to the idiots. Just like in life.

[MatticusMania]

bring a bucket