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06-07-2013, 04:37 PM
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Hi bass brethren,
Semi band woe once again.
Quick summary: small start up band covers band, 4 members - 2 band members have significant stage experience, two not so much, however have been rehearsing quite well together for 3-5 months. We currently have about 21 songs ready to go.
Lead singer goes and books us in for a local street gig scheduled for two months time. We all agree to do it at rehearsal.
Last night she messages me to tell me it pays $200.00 and there's no PA. I tell her we all have our own equipment (meaning us, guitar, drummer and me - basically having a dig that we've all invested in our craft, whereas she hasn't), and can she hire one? She still says no. I then tell her I have small amp she can borrow (it's a small outdoors cafe style gig), she then tells me it's not worth it and that we should find a groovy venue to play in etc. in the future. when I suggest we should do it for practice, she still doesn't want to do it, but then suggests we drive for an hour FOR FREE(!) to do this stupid open mic a friend of hers runs... CAN YOU MAKE SENSE OF THIS OR WHAT?!
I've reached the stage where I'm just hanging around because its good practise for me. Two things I think she should have done:
1. before "booking" this gig: asked about PA first, then
2. asked all band members whether to cancel before making up HER mind that we're to doing it.
Given our situation, would you have done the gig? Bearing in mind she has 20 years experience in singing and we all derive our income from other sources.
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06-07-2013, 04:39 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Central Florida | | | she got cold feet
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06-07-2013, 04:43 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Missouri | | | I dunno what it's like where you live, but I think $200 ought to cover a small PA rental.
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06-07-2013, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Nev375 I dunno what it's like where you live, but I think $200 ought to cover a small PA rental.
If you book a gig, you should follow through. Period. | Yeah, but my point is, she's said no to this, but wants to do an open mic gig for free! I already know what my response will be
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06-07-2013, 04:52 PM
|  | Your Obedient Bassist® | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Baltimore,MD USA | | | GTFO. That's what I'd do after five months.
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06-07-2013, 04:53 PM
|  | Don't take any guff from these swine! | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Pomona, SoCal | | | If I were in that particular situation I would ask around to borrow a PA for the paying gig. Then I would find someone else to sing for the band.
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06-07-2013, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MatticusMania If I were in that particular situation I would ask around to borrow a PA for the paying gig. Then I would find someone else to sing for the band. | She booked it, so not possible.
My point is, would you do it for $200 given we're a start up band and could do with the practise and she could have plugged her mic into my small amp and it prob, would have sufficed.
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06-07-2013, 04:58 PM
| | Don't take any guff from these swine! | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Pomona, SoCal | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Octaves My point is, would you do it for $200 given we're a start up band and could do with the practise and she could have plugged her mic into my small amp and it prob, would have sufficed. | Would I? Yes, I would.
Though, as a singer I can understand not wanting to sing though a small amp.
However, for the money, Id still take the gig.
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06-07-2013, 05:00 PM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Los Angeles | | | She may have 20 years vocal experience but she should NOT be booking gigs on her own. Is she the BL?
Seems to me that it's time for a band meeting. Don't be passive-aggressive like she's been. You all need to speak up if you want things to run differently.
Why does she think/believe she can start booking gigs without band approval?
Also, IMO, you guys accepted her in the band w/o a PA so whining about it is off the table.
Seems like your band should be having fun instead of unplanned probems/drama.
If there's no plan, (especially a written one), plan to fail.
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06-07-2013, 05:14 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Palm Coast, Florida | | | Almost as disturbing as the singers behavior is the fact that after this long you guys only have 21 songs down.
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06-07-2013, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Stumbo
If there's no plan, (especially a written one), plan to fail.
| Thanks Stumbo, I think that's the key to have a written plan. Now, if only I can be bothered! As i said, I'm just about at stage where I'm just going to go to reheasals just for the practise. If she raises gigging issues again, I'll insist on a written plan.
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06-07-2013, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Octaves Thanks Stumbo, I think that's the key to have a written plan. Now, if only I can be bothered! As i said, I'm just about at stage where I'm just going to go to reheasals just for the practise. If she raises gigging issues again, I'll insist on a written plan. | Why not ask for one at a band meeting to get things set up for futue success. If you guys can't get on the same page now then you won't waste any more time. |
06-07-2013, 05:24 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: montana | | | So she books a gig now she wants to cancel. People that hire you just love that.
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06-07-2013, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Octaves CAN YOU MAKE SENSE OF THIS OR WHAT?! | Yeah - she isn’t going to buy a PA!!! Quote: |
Given our situation, would you have done the gig?
| If it was booked YES - if I didn't already own PA equipment, I would have rented one.
In the past when you all get together, what has she been singing through?
PS - don't ever let her manage band bookings again!!!
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06-07-2013, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Stumbo Why not ask for one at a band meeting to get things set up for futue success. If you guys can't get on the same page now then you won't waste any more time. | Yeah, that might have to be the case. I'm just kinda burnt out dealing with her many dramas, being the glue that holds this band together, and motivating this band through this lack of direction. As I said, happy to turn up to rehearsals and will see if I can be bothered putting anymore energy into this band.
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06-07-2013, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Louvar PS - don't ever let her manage band bookings again!!! | Good point. She needs to step down, but she'll prob have a hissy fit about that.
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06-07-2013, 05:39 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cleveland, Ohio | | | Once you commit to something you need to follow thru. I've been in a band for over 23 years, and the only gigs cancelled were when my Dad died (12 yrs ago) and another band member had major surgery.
Your band name is out there...............no matter who booked it............to me that is totally unprofessional...........in Cleveland, where I love & play out............word woul d get out quick about a band booking gigs than cancelling out.
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06-07-2013, 05:40 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cleveland, Ohio | | | opps...meant where I live, love to ........lol. |
06-07-2013, 05:40 PM
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I love this string. I had a conversation recently about how we can arrange a practice without inviting a good friend because he will bring down the level of play. As I had the discussion, I though about how we sound like a bunch of teenage girls (no offence meant to any teenage girls on this board).
Unfortunately, it seems these situation are endless and if I manage to get out of a band before someone gets in a fist fight, I consider it amicable. |
06-07-2013, 05:43 PM
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