Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Band Management [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Band Management [BG] Examining issues with band membership, interaction, politics, and management.


Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 06-29-2009, 03:59 PM
NickInMesa's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Mesa, Arizona
Supporting Member
Why are there so many bands looking for a bassist?

Sign in to disble this ad
I have found a band, so I removed my ad, but still 3 other bands are after me. One keeps on leaving me voice mail. He does not even know how good I am.

Another emails me once a week, asking me if I am still looking for a band? When I tell him no, he emails me back telling me to let him know if it does not work with the new band.

Seriously, what the EFF? Not enough bassists, or what?

[sarcasm]

I don't understand, it's such an easy instrument, only 4 strings to play, one at a time, what's so hard?

[/sarcasm]
__________________
Bassists who drive a Volvo club #1
  #2  
Old 06-29-2009, 04:01 PM
Jazz Ad's Avatar
I took the one less traveled by
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Reims, Champagne, France
GOLD Supporting Member
Everybody wants to be an American Idol. It doesn't belong with bass playing.
  #3  
Old 06-29-2009, 04:01 PM
lmfreeman9's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Chicago
Supporting Member
There are 1 million too many guitarists and they all need bass to sound good. Get used to it, enjoy it, be grateful, don't complain.
  #4  
Old 06-29-2009, 04:03 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Sioux Falls, SD
Two reasons:

1) Because most bands suck (and the good bassists stay away from them).

2) Because a lot of bassists suck and/or have substandard gear (and the good bands won't hire them).

And the primary reason behind #1 is that there are not enough good drummers out there. Bad drummer = bad band. This, to me, is an even bigger problem than lack of good bassists. If I'm out watching a band and the drummer is overplaying or his time is off, I don't care what else the band may have going for it, I'm out of there. OTOH if the drummer is amazing I will forgive a lot of the rest of the band (while scheming how to connect myself with the drummer of course )

That all being said, agree with the previous poster. If you're in a "seller's market" for bassists then go with it... be picky, you can afford to. Don't underprice yourself, don't put up with crap and don't tie yourself to any band or artist that forbids you to play with other bands unless they are paying a fabulous, regular check.

Last edited by jaywa : 06-29-2009 at 04:52 PM.
  #5  
Old 06-29-2009, 04:08 PM
NickInMesa's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Mesa, Arizona
Supporting Member
I am used to having a sought-after skill (I am a software engineer with 15 years of experience), but that is downright ridiculous.
__________________
Bassists who drive a Volvo club #1
  #6  
Old 06-29-2009, 04:27 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: dallas,tx
have had it happen more than once at pawnshops!?!?!

i would find a nice jazz bass or spector and start ''noodling'' and i will get approached by guys asking ''hey man,you looking for a band?'' .....or....''hey your pretty good,my buddy's band is looking for a bassist and....

speaking of...lol.....i was driving on the highway about a month ago....i have a 6'' bass clef sticker on my back windshield.....going 60 mph this truck pulls up and the guy is yelling at me ''HEY!!! YOU PLAY BASS?....(doing the fingering motion with his hands so ill understand,i guess,lol) i told him yea,and then he ask if i was playing for anyone.....i shook my head ''yes'' and pointed my thumb to my back windshield again.......becasue if he saw the bass clef sticker ,surely he noticed the 2 foot ''primal circus'' logo covering about 40% of the glass
__________________
Progressive Rock Club #2
19mm club member #40 / Ibanez BTB club #7
  #7  
Old 06-29-2009, 04:45 PM
Registered User

Artist:TC Electronic RH450 bass system
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Fort Madison, IA
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jazz Ad View Post
Everybody wants to be an American Idol. It doesn't belong with bass playing.
I grew up in the 60's ---when the "fat-guy" got the bass..
I wasn't "FAT" ---but I was giggin' at 13 because of a shortage of bass players (& I was 6'-3" and could pass for 18 years of age). It hasn't changed that much..
  #8  
Old 06-29-2009, 05:00 PM
gweimer's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Columbus, OH
Supporting Member
It's been for time eternal that a good bass player will always be working. When I hit Cincinnati, I had to work at finding a gig. Right down to nearly starting a band. I'd hit Sonny Moorman's jam nights, and by 7:00, there were already 6 bass players in line, and they were all really good.
__________________
Youth and skill are no match for old age and treachery, Ohio Bassist member #2, Epiphone Bass Club member #9, G&L Club member #163, Hamer Club #10, Old Basstard Club #29
  #9  
Old 06-29-2009, 05:14 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
I think the band need girls around them
  #10  
Old 06-29-2009, 05:20 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Houston, Tx
Quote:
Originally Posted by lmfreeman9 View Post
There are 1 million too many guitarists and they all need bass to sound good. Get used to it, enjoy it, be grateful, don't complain.
yeah +1


As long as you can read music and you play bass, you will always have a job!!!
  #11  
Old 06-29-2009, 05:23 PM
::::BASSIST::::'s Avatar
Looking for Opportunities to Create Harmony
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Vancouver, BC Canada
Supporting Member
almost every genre of music needs a bassist!
__________________
Stambaugh Shortscale Jazz - GK MB800 - fEARful 15/6

Last edited by ::::BASSIST:::: : 06-29-2009 at 06:50 PM.
  #12  
Old 06-29-2009, 05:28 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Harlow, Essex, UK
dont complain, man i have been asked a few times by bands, but the bands were bunches of kids who could play powerchords and were not that serious about muisc... so i said no. it feel good to be needed XD
__________________
Yamaha TRB 1005 5 String club #151
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonic assassin View Post
who tucks their shirt in anyway? id rather play with my entire upper body on fire..
  #13  
Old 06-29-2009, 05:30 PM
NWB NWB is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Kirkland, WA
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaywa View Post
Two reasons:

1) Because most bands suck (and the good bassists stay away from them).

2) Because a lot of bassists suck and/or have substandard gear (and the good bands won't hire them).

And the primary reason behind #1 is that there are not enough good drummers out there. Bad drummer = bad band. This, to me, is an even bigger problem than lack of good bassists. If I'm out watching a band and the drummer is overplaying or his time is off, I don't care what else the band may have going for it, I'm out of there. OTOH if the drummer is amazing I will forgive a lot of the rest of the band (while scheming how to connect myself with the drummer of course )

That all being said, agree with the previous poster. If you're in a "seller's market" for bassists then go with it... be picky, you can afford to. Don't underprice yourself, don't put up with crap and don't tie yourself to any band or artist that forbids you to play with other bands unless they are paying a fabulous, regular check.
Good comment on the drummer thing. It seems the common denominator for all good bands is a solid drummer. Guitar, you can get away with some bit of sloppines. Bass, a fair bit less. Drums, no way.

A big +1 to grabbing the good drummer.
__________________
Club Clement #27
  #14  
Old 06-29-2009, 05:31 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Grand Rapids MI
Supporting Member
Supply and demand

Remember Guitar World started a bass magazine and didn't have enough circulation to keep it going leaving only bass player while there are about 10 guitar magazines. I'd be the guitarist to bassist ratio is 25 to 1.
__________________
Mike Lull club #4
Warwick club #66

Mike Lull Prototype
Upgraded Spector Legend
94 Warwick Streamer Bolt On
GK 1001RBII
Dr Bass 115 and 210
  #15  
Old 06-29-2009, 05:38 PM
Zooberwerx's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
GOLD Supporting Member
"There's more call for bad bassists than bad guitarists" or something of the like - Kenny Rogers.

He was the bass player in "Kenny Rogers and the First Edition". So, for people like me, there's always hope.

Riis
__________________
"20% of the money will buy you 90% of the sound..another 30% of the money will buy you another 5% of the sound..you can't buy the remaining 5% of the sound because nobody can agree about what it is."
  #16  
Old 06-29-2009, 05:39 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Sioux Falls, SD
Quote:
Originally Posted by tycobb73 View Post
Supply and demand

Remember Guitar World started a bass magazine and didn't have enough circulation to keep it going leaving only bass player while there are about 10 guitar magazines.
Yep... even drummers have about 5 or 6 monthly magazines they can buy down at my local Barnes & Noble. Bass players... 1.
  #17  
Old 06-29-2009, 05:44 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by tycobb73 View Post
Supply and demand

Remember Guitar World started a bass magazine and didn't have enough circulation to keep it going leaving only bass player while there are about 10 guitar magazines. I'd be the guitarist to bassist ratio is 25 to 1.
It was too bad, I loved that magazine.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by chokeslam512 View Post
I are fine with thread title good.
Death Metal Bassist #25 / Awesome Club Member #666
  #18  
Old 06-29-2009, 06:14 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Quote:
Originally Posted by tycobb73 View Post
Supply and demand

Remember Guitar World started a bass magazine and didn't have enough circulation to keep it going leaving only bass player while there are about 10 guitar magazines. I'd be the guitarist to bassist ratio is 25 to 1.
Maybe as far as buying gear goes, but I don't think the guitar/bass ratio of serious performing musicians is quite that lopsided. I gotta think a decent number of GW readers don't make it out of the bedroom and focus on the expanding field of note-for-note Steve Vai solos posted to youtube.
  #19  
Old 06-29-2009, 06:18 PM
J. Crawford's Avatar
@Crawfication

Endorsing Artist: Gravity Picks
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Ohio/West Virginia
Send a message via AIM to J. Crawford Send a message via Skype™ to J. Crawford
Supporting Member
We are a dying breed. Sorry to say it, and its sad.
__________________
Fender - Gallien Krueger - Avatar - Gravity

Facebook
Twitter
  #20  
Old 06-29-2009, 06:42 PM
oldrocker's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Long Island, NY
Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by NickInMesa View Post
I am used to having a sought-after skill (I am a software engineer with 15 years of experience), but that is downright ridiculous.
SWE's are in demand where you are? Over my way most of these jobs have evaporated or gone overseas.
__________________
"Bass lines are good because for people who don't understand what's going on in the rest of the song, there's always the bass line" - Frank Zappa
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:09 PM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.