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10-11-2009, 11:06 PM
|  | Official Forum Flunkee | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA | | | 6/8 Feel example recordings Ahh sorry for more spam.
I REAALLLYY need to strengthen my 6/8 feel. Can you guys provide some quintessential examples? Just need more ideas.
Afro 6/8 would be great.
Looking for stuff in this vein: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMh6VuGmLqE
Thnx.
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10-12-2009, 07:09 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Denver, Co. | | Thomas is excellent.
I did a **** load of this stuff with
Tjader. Many different figures. There are so many guys out there in the Bay Area who are deep into this, I would think you could pick up the phone and get some free feed-back from drummers and bassists who live this. The big thing for me is more about the physical stamina of repetitive figures in the bass. 
You know Vince Lateano, Huy?
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10-12-2009, 09:25 AM
|  | Official Forum Flunkee | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA | | | I dont' know him personally but I know who he is.
But by what you're saying, maybe it's time I finally give David Belove a call and get some lessons.
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10-12-2009, 10:59 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bay Area, CA | | This might be the best example I can come up with: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeXdn9yUhOw
There's a better performance of Afro Blue on Tito Puente's greatest hits compilation, but I can't find it readily on the webnet. Mongo doesn't start time till 3 minutes in... the piano solo tends to show off the 2 against 3 better than the horn.
The Coltrane versions are good to check out too.
Also The Latin Bass Book has a 6/8 section that is real nice, and includes exercises flipping between 6/8 and 4/4 tumbaos. | 
10-12-2009, 01:28 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: London, UK | | | hours and hours of Jimmy Garrison with Elvin, pretty much all recommended! I know thats a very obvious answer, but there you go... | 
10-13-2009, 06:28 AM
| | Inadvertent Microtonalist | | Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portland, ME | | A few thoughts:
This intense salsa version of "Invitation" off Brian Lynch's Con Clave brought your mind to mind immediately.
I used to play "The Visit" off Pat Martino's Footprints all the time.
That made me think of . . . Wayne Shorter's landmark song, Footprints
Don't overlook the obvious: Coltrane's Afro Blue
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10-13-2009, 06:30 AM
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10-13-2009, 07:05 AM
|  | Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Brighton, England, UK, Europe | | I have been getting into Jerry Gonzalez Fort Apache Band for that kind of Latin Groove - there's some good stuff there!
Loads of 6/8 grooves - 
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10-13-2009, 12:36 PM
|  | Official Forum Flunkee | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA | | | Latin Bass Book... duh. I just received my copy the other day.
Ahh yes, Footprints... why didn't I think of that? Thanks for the suggestions so far. I listened to Sam and renewed my eMusic contract so these are all going into the queue unless I can't hold out and wait until the end of the month (very likely).
Keep 'em coming if anybody thinks of anything else.
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10-13-2009, 12:41 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Free Republic of Berkeley | | | Huy, you might give Rob Fisher a call. He's another Cal Tjader alum and all over this kind of playing. He does give lessons. He's over in Berkeley. And, he's a heck of a nice guy. PM me if you need his phone number. | 
10-14-2009, 06:39 AM
| | | Here's a youtube video of the WDR Big Band playing Better Than Anything with Nnenna Freelon at the Montreux Jazz Fest. It is like a long-meter blues that switches back and forth from the 6/4 groove to fast 4/4. Nnenna is singing in 4/4 over the 6/4 parts. | 
10-16-2009, 12:10 PM
|  | Official Forum Flunkee | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA | | | Thanks for the clip John.
Will work on it. BTW: I got your arco book. Lots a great ideas in that. I'm going to try to do some arco solos eventually.
So far 6/8 has been helping me out with both my swing feel and my soloing. I was rushing during solos where I'd try to play a more complex rhythmic figure and this is help out alot. It seems to not just give more strength to the subdivision groove, but also gives the quarter-note triplet-y lines more foundation too.
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10-18-2009, 02:28 AM
|  | Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Brighton, England, UK, Europe | | | Another one that was pointed out to me by a teacher, as great rhythm section playing is "Barracudas" on Wayne Shorter's Etcetera album...?
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