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Old 01-14-2012, 06:50 PM
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The video was good but I can't hear the bass no matter what I do. I think a change in the attack and also mic it better.

Also, the way you play show that you have a poor BG technic and you use the same thing on DB and well ... on EB you may survive but on DB it will kill you after a while. Have a teacher show you the right technic, it will only do you some good, even on EB.
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Watch his right hand and compare it to your right hand.

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Old 02-02-2012, 08:17 PM
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The video was nice. Song arrangement was ok too.


The piano sounded thin and the bass was not there at all.

RE: Recording upright bass:

It all depends on what you have on hand to record it. Mics and preamps available.... Bass it tough to begin with let alone upright acoustic bass.

Upright bass can be boomy and microphone patterns and placement are tricky. Cardioid microphones have proximity effect. The closer you have them to a source, the bass frequencies get hyped. Omni on the other hand stay even for the most part, but you need to either gobo off the bass or be in a good room. DB also requires careful compression techniques to keep it "even" and open sounding in a mix and so you don't blow up speakers at resonant frequencies.

For arco, I usually put a u87 near the bridge and a Audio-Technica AT4051 sometimes a at4053 to localize a f-hole.

For pizz, I use a LDC and SDC. Usually a SDC on an f-hole and the LDC in the proximity of the bridge, sometimes higher, lower, off axis, etc. All depends on the style I am recording. Pizz has a lot of character depending on the player and genre of music, so there really aren't any set ways I record it other then a LDC and SDC. I almost always have a room mic or 2 as well.

If there is a pickup on the DB, I will DI that too and use it in a blend if needed/wanted.

Preamps are important too. Lately, I have been using a JLM audio TMP8 for the LDCs and a Sytek MPX4aii non-burr brown channel for the SDCs. As for mic selection for pizz, recently it has been a Oktava MC012 for the F-hole position and a 3-Zigma GK67 for the LDC.


Bass it the hardest part of the spectrum to learn, understand and get right. Took me a very long time (been engineering since the 80's). You need speakers and most importantly an environment to monitor the bass (treated room) to have an easier time. It can be done on headphones and in living rooms, etc, but you have a predictable room response in a treated room. All you will have to do is learn the room you are mixing in then mix
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Old 02-03-2012, 04:04 PM
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Thanks for the comments. I'll have my piano player look at this Champagne; he is the one that does the recording. These are useful tips. I really wish we could afford a good preamp right now, but this is not where we do most of our recording. We have a producer for the 'real' stuff; this is more just to generate some content for fans.

Clef_de_fa, I'm afraid that I am marginally insulted by your generalization of my EB technique from my DB technique. I'm trying to learn a new instrument and I have asked for feedback on said instrument. I find it somewhat ignorant to comment on my EB "technic" without having seen me play it (and without my asking for feedback on EB). Perhaps I ought to weigh in on your functional grammar? It would be very much the same. You are clearly a French speaker trying earnestly to communicate outside of your primary language. It would be unfair for me to criticize your application of grammatical conventions in your primary language based upon your errors in an additional language.
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Clef_de_fa, I'm afraid that I am marginally insulted by your generalization of my EB technique from my DB technique. I'm trying to learn a new instrument and I have asked for feedback on said instrument. I find it somewhat ignorant to comment on my EB "technic" without having seen me play it (and without my asking for feedback on EB). Perhaps I ought to weigh in on your functional grammar? It would be very much the same. You are clearly a French speaker trying earnestly to communicate outside of your primary language. It would be unfair for me to criticize your application of grammatical conventions in your primary language based upon your errors in an additional language.
I'm with Clef_de_fa. I think he's giving you valid advice.
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Old 02-04-2012, 11:16 AM
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I checked out your blog. As a math teacher I really like the "how many double bass players" Fermi problem! Neat.

I still don't understand how the clip suggests I need work on EB, but oh well. Internets gonna' internet.
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nice clip

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