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11-24-2012, 11:14 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Denver, Co. | | Jim Hall and Red Mitchell.... Finally, a cut from "The Record". No longer in print, but considered by many to be the greatest guitar/bass duo in history. Live from Sweet Basil in NYC.
Gorgeous. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9Jvst3madw
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11-24-2012, 12:59 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NYC, Inwood. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Warburton | I'm one of the many. | 
11-24-2012, 01:16 PM
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__________________ Oh, no.....have we gone OT yet again? "The opportunity was there...but it never presented itself." Phil Urso, 1980. :atoz: | 
11-24-2012, 04:13 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NYC | | | I wish that more of this stuff would show up, like the new tracks from the Bourbon Street trio gig....
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11-24-2012, 09:56 PM
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11-25-2012, 12:46 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Brooklyn, NY | | Oh man. I feel a Red Mitchell binge coming on.
I get waaay too much pleasure from hearing the glasses clink and stuff. I'm a creepy voyeur like that, I guess.
Pretty song I'm not familiar with. Ooh, Jim's chunking things up.
Everybody see this great interview w/ Jim Hall? | 
11-25-2012, 07:03 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Denver, Co. | | According to the liner notes, "Blue Dove" is a traditional Mexican folk song.
About Jim "chunking things up"......to quote Red Mitchell: "Jim Hall is a great little band".
For a look into the history of Red and Jim, here's a clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODkaz...eature=related of them from L.A. in 1957 with the wonderful pianist, Carl Perkins. Red mentored Jim from the day Jim moved into the area and Jim always talked about how Red was a huge influence on his playing. I remember one remark from Jim about his use of the left hand in his playing. He said....."I learned a lot about this from watching Red Mitchell play the bass". Red's using four Artone gut strings tuned in 4ths in this clip.....
And....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZhnF...feature=relmfu
Here's one from "The modest jazz trio" with Red on piano and the very funny Red Kelly (of Woody Herman fame) on bass. The tune's by Red. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vid-...eature=related
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11-25-2012, 07:36 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Paris, France | | | Thanks for sharing that and giving all these fascinating explanations! | 
11-25-2012, 07:39 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: South Carolina | | | Dont have much to add but if you haven't taken a listen to "the Bridge" by Sonny Rollins w/Jim Hall.......woof, he is cookin on that album! | 
11-25-2012, 08:00 AM
|  | Student of Life Forum Administrator | | Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisville, KY | | | Fantastic. Jim Hall represents everything I love about melodic jazz improvisation - not even a trace of ego or wankery of any kind. As for Red, I'm really sorry I never got to hear him play live. It's not any one thing that he does that blows me away, it's just the spirit of what he does. You can hear that he's totally immersed in the music to the point where you can hear the music laughing, smiling, and crying all at the same time.
It's this kind of playing (from both of these gents) that picks me up when I start to wonder (not often, but on bad days or after particularly bad gigs) if playing jazz is worth the trouble. After hearing this, I know that it is. When the music is really, really honest like this, there's just no question. | 
11-25-2012, 08:32 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Los Angeles, Ca. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Warburton I remember one remark from Jim about his use of the left hand in his playing. He said....."I learned a lot about this from watching Red Mitchell play the bass". | Jim's left knocks me out. I have seen him live. He uses pretty light gauge strings and his G is really light. I think he use to change it out for an unwound G, which in jazz is unusual. He uses his G as a transition string. He's able to play multiple notes going up and down while only picking the string once.
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11-25-2012, 09:13 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Denver, Co. | | Red wrote a tune alluding to this concept of using less pluck and more left hand and making it sound very even on all the strings.........it's called "One long string".
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11-25-2012, 02:05 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NYC, Astoria | | | Man, listening to that Jim Hall/Red Mitchell/Carl Perkins clip.. such beautiful music. | 
11-25-2012, 03:49 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Denver, Co. | | Here's a two track clip from the same side. "Stella" is first but @ about 3:13 is one of my favorite tunes, "Deep in a dream". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoRyf...eature=related
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11-26-2012, 07:53 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: South Carolina | | | cool thanks for these clips---diggin it | 
11-27-2012, 07:03 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Denver, Co. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil Rowan | After Red passed, I did some gigs with Roger Kellaway, who hooked up with Red in the final years for duo performances and recordings. It was fun for me because we played some of Red's tunes. I asked Roger what was the single most impressive musical value he got from Red and he said his "focus". This clip's a good demonstration of that, for sure. Red was fond of trading phrases, rather than 4's or 8's but can be very tricky in terms of not stepping on one another.
I have a side with Jim and Red where they both stop at the same time in an exchange and both come in with the very same idea in unison in the same register.
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11-27-2012, 07:19 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NYC, Astoria | | | Right! The same kind of thing just about happens in the Joe Pass/Red Mitchell clip I posted. On listening to it I found myself just drawn closer and closer to the speaker as the trading went on and more and more surprised/amazed at their exchange of ideas/phrases. Roger's totally right about the focus Red had (and I'd say another impressive musical value of Red's is just how free he was with everything he played). | 
11-27-2012, 07:37 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: NYC | | | Ive seen Jim Hall play, he could barely walk but when he picks up the Guitar he comes accross with incredible energy, he is amazing!
Thanks for sharing.
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11-27-2012, 08:19 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Brooklyn, NY | | | I finally got a chance to check this stuff out on my nice headphones. Holy crap, what a pretty sound. I'm gonna check out the rest of these links as the night goes on (I'm at work). I really like this song. It's so pretty-pretty.
Checking some of this out, gotta say, that album cover from the Stella recording is AWESOME.
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