New Hancock

Marc Decho · #1 10-05-2005, 01:04 PM

Anybody check out the new Herbie disc ? I saw it at HMV the lineup looks extremely cheesy and lame.....Christina Aguilera ? what ? .....i'm afraid....

i'll listen to it on amazon this afternoon....what's the deal with talented people hooking up with cornball popstars anyway ?

Marcus Johnson · #2 10-05-2005, 01:54 PM

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Marc Decho · #3 10-05-2005, 03:02 PM

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say it ain't so!!! would people really sell their souls for the almighty dollar!

hdiddy · #4 10-05-2005, 03:28 PM

I like Herbie and all, but to see him catering to the Starbucks crowd with the new album is disturbing to me. Add to it that it's with all these pop stars and having seen him on infomercials being the salesman for those Bose wave stereos. Sure, it's ok for a guy to make money, but as for an amazing artist of his stature, it smells an awful lot like "total sell out".

anonymous0726 · #5 10-05-2005, 03:45 PM

Christina may suffer from youth and bad taste, but that girl can sing!

Bruce Lindfield · #6 10-06-2005, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray Parker

Christina may suffer from youth and bad taste, but that girl can sing!

I agree and I think Herbie has always been looking to pop/funk/rock for inspiration - so firstly with Headhunters, then things like "the New Standards" etc. etc.

I see him as somebody who gets inspired by all sorts of things - Gershwin/Ravel just as much as James Brown and he makes it his own - isn't that what Jazz is all about?

I heard some of it by accident in a Starbucks and was suprised at how good the music they were playing was - then saw the posters about Herbie Hancock...not sure I'd buy it though - there's so much other great music out there to get!!

Marcus Johnson · #7 10-06-2005, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray Parker

Christina may suffer from youth and bad taste, but that girl can sing!

Agreed.

bass_means_LOW · #8 10-06-2005, 06:52 AM

If someone's going to do a trip like that, I'd rather hear Herbie's product more than anyone I suppose.

Marc Decho · #9 10-06-2005, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray Parker

Christina may suffer from youth and bad taste, but that girl can sing!

no quarrel there, she definately CAN sing, she just chooses to OVERSING everything a la American Idol, that crap drives me nuts!

**Chris Fitzgerald** · #10 10-06-2005, 10:04 AM

Herbie did a duet cut with Bonnie Raitt called "Ain't Gonna Let You Break My Heart Again" on one of her old albums that was simply gorgeous. If he did an album with Bonnie, I'd be all over it in a heartbeat. While I feel that Chrisdiva Aguilera is pretty much a cookie cutter R&B dip**** who's not even 1/1,000,000,000th as hot as she apparently thinks she is, she certainly sings better that *itney Sprouts or Marge Simpson...so there is at least a little hope. If someone could post a link to a soundbyte, I'd give it a listen.

christ andronis · #11 10-06-2005, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray Parker

Christina may suffer from youth and bad taste, but that girl can sing!

+1.....When she matures and settles down I think she'll be a mofo. Maybe working with Herbie will help her realize that.

go here to listen: http://www.herbiehancock.com/

Marcus Johnson · #12 10-08-2005, 05:48 AM

Kinda weird that nobody seems to mind when a pop singer has a jazz artist as a guest on a recording. Freddie Hubbard and Phil Woods with Billy Joel, Sonny Rollins with the Rolling Stones, Bill Frisell with Norah Jones..... there's a bunch of 'em.

Aaron Saunders · #13 10-08-2005, 10:32 AM

I've heard several tracks -- what I've heard is great, actually. This isn't Maiden Voyage here, but it's still good music. The John Mayer opening track is especially cool. For those who don't know, John Mayer went to Berklee, toured with the Headhunters, and has a blues/fusion group right now with Pino Palladino and Steve Jordan. Pretty neat, eh?

Ric Vice · #14 10-10-2005, 05:06 PM

Well,
I actually heard Head Hunters back in late June. Mayer sang a couple of tunes and played very little guitar. He was kind of a "duck out of water." His soloing just wasn't up to par with the other players in the band, The other guitarist Lionel Loueke was very good. Mayer's solos were blues based and really didn't fit the tunes that he was playing over. IMHO I like Mayer better with his own band.

Ric

Aaron Saunders · #15 10-10-2005, 05:22 PM

Gig Report: Herbie Hancock's Headhunters '05 with Marcus Miller

Discussion about John Mayer on tour with Hancock. Neat stuff in there.

Marc Decho · #16 10-11-2005, 08:12 AM

checked out the video montage on the site....I like the track with Sting the best so far.....he's a class act all the way....oversingers a la Joss Stone, Aguilera and co. should sit back and take a lesson....no need for lllla lla la la lalalaallal puke, just my opinion.

T-Bal · #17 10-13-2005, 03:23 PM

Herbie Hancock is no dummy. And I'm pretty sure he doesn't NEED the money. I suspect he saw a valid artistic reason for this collaboration. If nothing else, it's an avenue to allow his music to reach millions of new (younger) listeners who might never have heard of him. So if he generates even a smidgen of interest for himself or jazz as a whole, who's complaining?

hdiddy · #18 10-13-2005, 04:00 PM

Yeah, I was thinking about that lately, and this isn't the first time he's done that sort of thing. "Rock It" was fun for what it was.

Bruce Lindfield · #19 10-14-2005, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc Decho

checked out the video montage on the site....I like the track with Sting the best so far.....he's a class act all the way....oversingers a la Joss Stone, Aguilera and co. should sit back and take a lesson....no need for lllla lla la la lalalaallal puke, just my opinion.

This seems a strange opinion to come up in a discussion about Jazz ....so like why didn't Charlie Parker just stick to playing the tune....why did he put in all that other bebop, overplaying puke...

Phil Smith · #20 10-14-2005, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by T-Bal

Herbie Hancock is no dummy. And I'm pretty sure he doesn't NEED the money. I suspect he saw a valid artistic reason for this collaboration. If nothing else, it's an avenue to allow his music to reach millions of new (younger) listeners who might never have heard of him. So if he generates even a smidgen of interest for himself or jazz as a whole, who's complaining?

I don't think this is about generating interest for Jazz, more than it is generating interest for music. I think Herbie like Miles is about moving forward and not being "stuck" in any one particular place which can be to paraphrase Miles kind of boring(he used stronger terms). He's playing piano and synths across a number of styles and genres. There are some very good cuts on this disc, but of course one would have to have an open mind towards different types of music to appreciate this.