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06-28-2006, 11:31 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Grand Rapids, MI | | | Brubeck recording- What chord is this? I'm working on transcribing the piano intro to Strange Meadow Lark by Dave Brubeck. There's a chord about 16 seconds in and I'm not sure what it is. I think I'm hearing this correctly, starting from the bottom note- Bb(just below middle C) D F# G A D. I hear it as a D chord with a 4 stuck in there and a Bb on the bottom, but I'm not sure what to consider the root. Am I correct in thinking this would best qualify as a Bbmaj13+5? Not a chord you hear horribly often...
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06-29-2006, 08:10 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NYC | | | I'd wait for Durrl to chime in, but that kind of looks more like a polychord? Gminor and Dmajor triads....
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06-29-2006, 08:28 AM
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06-29-2006, 08:34 AM
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06-29-2006, 09:07 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Austin, TX | | | Both suggestions make me wonder what chords precede and follow it
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06-29-2006, 09:56 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Norwell, MA | | | It is just one suggestion: Bb (third) D the (fifth) F# the (maj 7) A the (ninth) G the (root) {"first inversion" means voiced with 3rd in the bass} | 
06-29-2006, 10:02 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Austin, TX | | Oh I meant yours and Ed's two-headed chord but hey thanks for the breakdown of the spelling!
Your Gm(maj7)add9 certainly looks "cleaner" but I'm intrigued by the notion of two key centers on the very same beat
oh o.k. "first inversion" I'm gonna have to remember that trick
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06-29-2006, 10:42 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Norwell, MA | | | I am not sure a polychord implies two different key centers. A typical polychord implies a scale or certian tensions (color tones)for that particular chord.
An example: D/C7 is a dom. with the 9th 13 th and the #11
Bb/C is a Csus
D/F7 is a Fdom. with a natural 13 flat9
D/Eb a particular diminished sound
Gb7/C7 is a dom. with flat 9 sharp 11
Ab/C7 is a dom. with flant 9 flat 13
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06-29-2006, 12:21 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Grand Rapids, MI | | | If it helps I made a little excerpt recording and a visual. The chord I'm talking about is at the very end.
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06-29-2006, 01:50 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Austin, TX | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by msw I am not sure a polychord implies two different key centers. A typical polychord implies a scale or certian tensions (color tones)for that particular chord.
An example: D/C7 is a dom. with the 9th 13 th and the #11
Bb/C is a Csus
D/F7 is a Fdom. with a natural 13 flat9
D/Eb a particular diminished sound
Gb7/C7 is a dom. with flat 9 sharp 11
Ab/C7 is a dom. with flant 9 flat 13 | Ah o.k. msw now I see what you mean. Hmm this almost seems to be another example of an "eye of the beholder" situation like in how to analyze what's really going on with My Funny Valentine. Quote: |
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06-29-2006, 02:19 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK | | | I'm having a hard time hearing the G in the voicing. Perhaps because it's the note of the melody immediately before this chord it lingers in your ear? Or it is there and my ears are just tired. Minus the G, isnt this just a D/Bb? Or at a pinch D(b13) (I don't like that though, I'm hearing the function as more of a VIIdom, as though the bass note could just as easily, if less tastily, be the third, an f sharp.)
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06-29-2006, 02:29 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Grand Rapids, MI | | | Where's the "Ask Dave Brubeck" forum when you need it? | 
06-29-2006, 03:40 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Norwell, MA | | | The changes are:
EbM7/Ab7 9-#11-13/G7b13/C7sus/F13/Bb7/EbM7#11/AbM7/Db7/G7b13 To the mystery chord....C7 9/#11/13 | 
06-29-2006, 08:04 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Maui | | | That's a beautiful tune. I've been trying to get my duo partner to play that one for awhile, for when people come up and request "some Brubeck". | 
06-29-2006, 11:27 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Grand Rapids, MI | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by msw The changes are:
EbM7/Ab7 9-#11-13/G7b13/C7sus/F13/Bb7/EbM7#11/AbM7/Db7/G7b13 To the mystery chord....C7 9/#11/13 | Wow, thanks. That's a great progression, I love Brubeck stuff. C does make the most sense come to think of it, seeing as it's in the context of the key of Eb. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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