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Old 01-30-2013, 03:40 PM
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Songs with 7+5 chords

Can anyone suggest any songs with lots of dominant sharp 5 chords? I need some for a lesson.

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This article cites many examples, most of which either have, or could have, the 7th in addition to the #5.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augmented_triad
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Can anyone suggest any songs with lots of dominant sharp 5 chords? I need some for a lesson.

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Do you want +7 with natural 9ths chords for the whole-tone scale or +7 implying the altered scale?

For the altered scale, any jazz tunes in minor could be a good source. A minor Blues for example.
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Do you want +7 with natural 9ths chords for the whole-tone scale or +7 implying the altered scale?

For the altered scale, any jazz tunes in minor could be a good source. A minor Blues for example.

Both actually - Minor blues is a good thought but I'm really looking for songs where the 7+5 is the featured sound.

Thanks though.
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This article cites many examples, most of which either have, or could have, the 7th in addition to the #5.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augmented_triad
Nice. Thanks. Hoping for some Jazz standards also.
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Be aware that many leadsheets in fakebooks will write a 7+5 chord when, in fact, the chord is a dominant with a b9 and b13. The first chord in the bridge to "Stella..." is one example.
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And, of course, there's the G7 b13 later in Stella that is often treated as 7+5. Looking for a song with vast expanses of that sound.
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Be aware that many leadsheets in fakebooks will write a 7+5 chord when, in fact, the chord is a dominant with a b9 and b13. The first chord in the bridge to "Stella..." is one example.
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And, of course, there's the G7 b13 later in Stella that is often treated as 7+5. Looking for a song with vast expanses of that sound.
That's what he said ...
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yikes - so he did. Sorry.
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All the things you are, last chord before the last A part is C7+5.
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Juju. First four bars are B7+5.

Very whole-tone-y though.
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Be aware that many leadsheets in fakebooks will write a 7+5 chord when, in fact, the chord is a dominant with a b9 and b13. The first chord in the bridge to "Stella..." is one example.
This is very true.

Take a look at the first five chords to Someday My Prince Will Come.

In Bb, it is often written as:

|| BbMaj7 | D7+5 | EbMaj7 | G7+5 | Cm7 | etc...

The second and fourth chords are commonly written as X7+5.

These chords, at the second and fourth measures, would probably be more correctly noted (from the Common Practice Period) as D7b13 (no 5th, 9th, 11th) - D, F#, C, Bb, and G7b13 (no 5th, 9th, 11th) - G, B, F, Eb, respectively.

But it's a lot easier to read X7+5 and know that it's really an X7b13 (no 5th, 9th, 11th).

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Birth of the Blues:
C7 |G7 G7+5 | C7 C7+5| F7....
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Thanks, guys. Very helpful.
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When Your Lover Has Gone, bars 14 and 30.
Good Bye (Gordon Jenkins) bar 3 of the A section. Song construction is ABA.
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