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Old 06-26-2012, 07:39 PM
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35 Inch scale bass that plays and feels like a 34

I was wondering if anyone here, mainly players who prefer 35in scale basses have ever run across one that plays and "feels" more like a 34in. What I mean by that is with the combination of design cues, bridge placement, upper horn length and body contours, the bass is a 35in scale but all the design factors allow it to have the reach and feel of a 34.

The reason I ask this is because I have owned to 35in 5 strings in the past the tone and the b strings were great but the reach was so uncomfortable I could not deal with it. It also killed my shoulder and a wider strap did not help.
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Old 06-26-2012, 07:45 PM
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The only 35" scale I have ever played that was as comfortable as a 34" was a Skjold. Pete's design makes that reach very comfortable and his B string is killer.

He now offers 34" as an option which is great for us guys and gals who shy away from the 35"s.
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Old 06-26-2012, 07:48 PM
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That's true I did play a skjold once and it was one comfortable 35"
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I was wondering if anyone here, mainly players who prefer 35in scale basses have ever run across one that plays and "feels" more like a 34in. What I mean by that is with the combination of design cues, bridge placement, upper horn length and body contours, the bass is a 35in scale but all the design factors allow it to have the reach and feel of a 34.

The reason I ask this is because I have owned to 35in 5 strings in the past the tone and the b strings were great but the reach was so uncomfortable I could not deal with it. It also killed my shoulder and a wider strap did not help.
I feel your pain. I loved my BTB, only if it was a 34" I would still have it
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Old 06-26-2012, 07:53 PM
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When I started playing I borrowed a friend's 34 inch four string and 35 inch five string and quickly decided 35 was definitely not for me. So when I bought my bass, I made sure to get a 34 inch four string, and got a neck-through Schecter Riot 4, which is 34, since that was the most comfy and best sounding of all I tried. I picked it out from 3-4 other riot 4's since it sounded the best.

Being new to this, and working next to guitar center, I kept going back I try other basses out. "maybe a five?" but no, none felt as nice, and I'd go back happy to my schecter. Good choice I made says I.

Last fall, I change the strings to ones with silk, and guess what, they're a half inch short. What the heck? Bring out the yardstick and turns out it's a 35 inch bass (despite all schecter docs saying it's 34). An email with them turned up that that bass was originally supposed to be 35 inches, and the first few made were then thy switched it to 34, and somehow one of those first ones out escaped to guitar center where I bought it.

So, after a year of my paranoid checked about whether a 35 is harder than 34, with me paying a lot of attention to other basses, and all the time I was playing a 35 without knowing.

Living proof that in a blind test, with a comfy neck and balance, a 35 can feel like a 34.

Suspect the longer length is why it sounded better than the other four strings though, there was a clear difference between it and its sister riot 4's in the store ...
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I feel pretty comfortable playing 35" Laklands
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Old 10-12-2012, 05:55 PM
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No, and I'm glad of that.
I recently bought a 34" scale and I don't think I will keep it.
Strings seem rubbery to me after playing 35's for years no matter who makes the strings.
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"Feels like a 34" is a stretch IMO. The fret spacing won't change...

Several 35's feel good, though... Fodera, Lakland, Hanewinckel, MTD are good options...
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Just tune it down, and play higher up the neck.
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Old 10-12-2012, 06:24 PM
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Rob Allen. The body geometry and bridge position make it play a lot shorter than the scale (though nothing will change the actual distance between notes on the fingerboard).
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Old 10-12-2012, 06:27 PM
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Also Matt Pulcinella. His Level 5's have the bridge set back like the R.A. I know his 34" feels like 32" and does also make them 35".
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Old 10-12-2012, 06:40 PM
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The extra length is only 1/2" either side of the twelfth fret from nut to bridge.
It matters, but it's not a big deal once you get accustomed to it, what matters is going back and forth between 34 and 35" scales, especially if you play fretless.
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Old 10-12-2012, 06:49 PM
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I switch back & forth from my 34" Fender J to my 35" Spector without issue. I don't even notice the extra distance.

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"Feels like a 34" is a stretch IMO. The fret spacing won't change...

Several 35's feel good, though... Fodera, Lakland, Hanewinckel, MTD are good options...
Yes it does, just not much.
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Yes it does, just not much.
I meant to say that the fret spacing on a 35" won't change, so it'll never actually feel like a 34".
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Old 10-12-2012, 07:08 PM
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Some people say it never brothers them yet these threads pop up all the time...
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Old 10-12-2012, 07:12 PM
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Rob Allen. The body geometry and bridge position make it play a lot shorter than the scale (though nothing will change the actual distance between notes on the fingerboard).
Hard to beat a Rob Allen in this aspect.

If a solid B with a shorter reach is desired, a longer top horn can help. There are also several builders who can build an impressive sounding low B in 34" scale or less. The low B on my 32" scale CB is great.

The OP hasn't posted in here since June so......
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Old 10-12-2012, 07:17 PM
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Lakland. Designed from the ground up to be a 35" that feels like a 34".

I switch back and fourth between my 34's and my Lakland 5501 constantly and there's no real difference. Nice thing about Laklands is the balance. Many 35's neck dive because of the extra length, but Lakie's balance perfectly.
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Old 10-12-2012, 07:20 PM
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Carvin makes a marketing claim that their XB series does the trick you're looking for. I love Carvins, but I've never played an XB. You can read about them at this link and decide for yourself whether you want to drink the kool aid or not.

http://www.carvinguitars.com/customshop/xbbasses.php
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Old 10-12-2012, 07:23 PM
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Carvin makes an XB series that is built on the same body and neck as their 34" LB series. They move the bridge back and go from 24 frets to 22.

I own multiple Carvins (B25, B50's) and they (and the B string) are every bit as good as the Laklands I once had.

Though Laklands are comfortable as far as 35"s go.
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Old 10-12-2012, 07:25 PM
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I tried a lot of 35" 5/6 strings and it's not comfortable for me compared to a 34". I really liked the neck of an Ibanez BTB676 and figured that after couple of weeks I will adapt.

Than I tried a custom bass from a small local builder: lutherie MF in Montreal. WOW, that 6-string bass was as comfortable as a 34" 4 string. Really thin bolt-on neck, B string with same feel as a 4-string E string and body was a bit "shifted" on the left. I have a Yamaha Attitude and that 6-string felt totally like home. Downside: $2300...
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