Advice from you experts on a first bass guitar
How are you? Thank you so much for taking the time to read this thread.
I was wondering if anyone could share their opinions on the first bass I am getting ready to purchase!
Firstly, I want to explain that even though I do not own a bass, I am not new to playing the bass guitar. I have always borrowed basses from friends due to my financial situation. I'm only saying this to explain that I am not looking for a practice bass.
But I am in desperate need of one now because I am unable to borrow a bass any longer.
Even though I have played the bass before, (I am definitely not like "a bassist") I know next to nothing about the correct gear, which is why I am asking you wonderful people.
I am looking for a bass with the following qualities:
-Can be purchased from Craigslist (financially I want a nice bass but will have to get one second hand)
-A very bassy bass. Used for a really thick bottom end, it won't be the star of the show or needed for slapping
-5 string, but if this is not possible or findable, I will tune it B-E-A-D
-I am a fan of aesthetics, so hopefully a nice looking bass!
-I don't mind a very old bass, I like "retro/vintage" stuff!
**I really like the sound of Musicman basses, because they sound so full, but they are on the pricey side. I live in Southern California so there should be a lot of Craigslist traffic in this very populated state.
If anyone would like to throw in their knowledge and opinions with any links, I would BEYOND appreciate it. Thank you all so much and I can't wait to soak up your knowledge like a sponge. Thank you again! :help:
Specifying your maximum budget will generally yield better recommendations here.
But for starters, since you expressed a preference for the Music Man tone, perhaps consider checking out the Sterling by Music Man S.U.B. Ray4 and Ray5 basses.
I second the above comment. Sterling rays are incredible build quality for the price and they sound good too. Never played a 5 string model so im not sure how good the B is but if its anything like their big brother, theyre nice.
Thank you both so much for your comments! I was thinking I would like to spend around $600 - $800 on the bass itself. I do think a Sterling would be nice too! I was also wondering: is there a like small but full sounding speaker that would pair nice with a fat sounding bass?
Typically the bigger the speaker the fuller a sound, but that's a very very big generalized and ymmv. If you love the sound of musicman basses and have that budget, I'd go for a used Ray35. This is the mid range level of musicman bass and are very very close to the real thing with relatively few differences and great value.
IMO if your budget is 800 I would spend the money on a good amp. $500 for a gk mb115 combo, which I personally really like and put the rest towards a bass you are comfortable playing.
I was in a pinch and had to get a back up bass for a big weekend of gigs and I picked up a squier pbass for 100 bucks. I was hesitant at first because, well, its a cheap bass. It was a smart move because my Spector's input decided to bomb out on me at the first show, and through my gk 700rbii and ampeg 8x10 that bass blew my mind! The tone sounded great in the mix.
That's just my opinion and experience so far.
I second the Ray 35 as a Stingray Classic 5 owner and the owner of a GK 115-II
Ray35s go for pretty cheap used, make sure you have a good amp first. The gk is an excellent option.
Thank you all so much for your replies! It seems like everyone loves gk! How do they record? I believe this bass would be almost exclusively used for recording that perfect low end, like I said no fancy slapping or anything like that :)
Recording covers? Which bands?
Favorite bass player(s)?
Do you know what neck width you prefer? Thinner? Wider?
Which recording software do you have?
Basically anywhere in the "pop" genre, but the bass sound I want to use is like where it's just like so full but still has presence like a big bottom end
I don't particularly know of any bass players that I just love their playing but the overall bass sound I like is like where it's more of a feeling/groove than a funky pick-the-notes out sort of thing
Definitely fingered bass!
I think I prefer a thinner neck
I have ableton
:cool: Thank you!!!!!!!
This is a long shot, but if you can find one, maybe you can try a Peavey T-40. They are pretty cheap in the US (I think around 200 or 250 $), and quite versatile. (but they are 4string).
Otherwise +1 on the Ray5
you should check out a secondhand rickenbacker if u don't mind a 4 string..
dude!! chk these out:
Not so easy to come across with, but I think I have the thing right for you
Ibanez Paul Gray bass
Unfortunately I come from sellin' mine last week, but as I'm italian, it's such a long way for you californian (great country!)
The Paul Gray bass #1 is an ATK series (known as Ibanez take
on MusicMan's Sterling) so it's a light ash body with TripleCoil humbucker (no more available) with three band eq that works:
- front and center coil in series with highcut filter (a Precision with rolledout tone);
- front and center coil in series with no filter (a Precision with a completely open tone);
- front and rear coil in parallel with no filter (a Jazz bass with a completely open tone).
But I said "Ibanez take on MusicMan's Sterling" because the Paul Gray bass has a thinner bolt on neck (while ordinary ATKs
are more on the Precision neck "side of life") and, being late Paul Gray from Slipknot, it comes factory tuned B, E, A, D.
"second hand" is around $. 350.00 and, with the same cash, you can buy a Line6 "lowdown 150" (for new) which is a 12" tiltback combo (worth 150w) with Line6 proprietary ampmodel
Think about it
+1 on the Ray35
Used - $400-$500
GK 115 combo
Used $300-$350 or so maybe less
Anyway your budget should cover the bass and amp. Used is the way to go, check out the classifieds on talkbass!
Go used! The Musicman SUB is an outstanding bass. And Gallien Krueger amps are great. That's just my opinion though.. Do as you please.
Whatever you do, buy something 'standard' and serviceable—Fender, Peavey, GK, Hartke, Ampeg—nothing esoteric. And buy used.
Frankly, it sounds to me like you don't really have enough experience with different kinds of basses to really know what you're looking for, and there are countless basses out there that meet the broad criteria you listed. You can only go so far in figuring out what you'll like based on verbal descriptions: You need to go out and actually try a bunch of different ones to see what really floats your boat. Being in SoCal means not only that you should have lots of craigslist options when you're ready to buy; it also means you should have plenty of music stores around where you can see and try out a wide variety of options. This will give you a chance to check out a variety of amps as well, which as others have noted is every bit as important.
Also, once you have a clearer idea of what you like and don't like, keep in mind that there are lots of options for buying. Going used is definitely a good idea, but craigslist is only one option for that: Many music stores sell used gear, so you might find something somewhere that you like and can buy on the spot. The TB classifieds is also a great place to shop as well. But to make good use of any of these resources, you need to already know what you're looking for, and there just isn't any way to really figure that out without trying stuff out in person.
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