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rotis 01-01-2013 10:54 AM

Any Reason NOT to buy a 5 stringer?
 
In my quest for the tone I have been looking for I finally realized that the tone I am after is the classic P-Bass sound. Initially I was not a fan of the look of the Precision bass but it has really grown on me because of the sound.

Since I realized all this I have had my heart set on a Fender American Standard P. While I have been shopping I have begun to look at the P5 which leads me to the question:

Is there a reason NOT to buy the Fender American Standard P Bass V? Help a brother out.

Jazz Ad 01-01-2013 11:05 AM

You don't need/want/like 5 string basses.
It's really all that count.

Unrepresented 01-01-2013 11:10 AM

Off the top of my head:

a) You dislike heavier basses
b) You dislike wider necks
c) You dislike paying more for strings
d) You don't want to adjust to new hand positions

I'm not anti-5 string, but those all seem like viable reasons to go against it if you're looking for them. There's certainly a list of similar advantages as well.

bassteban 01-01-2013 11:11 AM

Because you're broke(?)- works for me, plus I have nice 5er

toddoutloud 01-01-2013 11:15 AM

The 5-string P is a damn fine instrument. Whatever you do, play several of them in person before purchasing.

thisSNsucks 01-01-2013 11:17 AM

Aside from personal preference the only reason not to go with a 5 is to avoid hearing "Jaco only needed 4 Strings." comments.

spade2you 01-01-2013 11:21 AM

The only downside is that some basses don't have a great low B string while the rest of the strings are fine.

uOpt 01-01-2013 11:24 AM

They do sound a bit different. You can speculate about the reasons which might include the bigger neck, the now asymmetric pickup, the heavier bridge or all of the above.

bassteban 01-01-2013 11:28 AM

Hey, I just thought of a great reason: because a bunch of semi-complete strangers on an Internet forum told you not to. :)

KIDDING you- I should've researched many past buys like this. Pics when we inadvertantly talk you into it. :D

Edit: A good one, from personal experience: Because it does NOT really feel *just like* the killer 4-banger you just bought(not a given in such a situation, again- just my personal exp)

Joe Murray 01-01-2013 11:28 AM

Do Not. I repeat, DO NOT get a five string Fender P-bass!!!
Just trust me on this one.








.......and the reverse psychology grenade has been tossed.

rotis 01-01-2013 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bassteban (Post 13652763)
Because you're broke(?)- works for me, plus I have nice 5er

Been saving my pennies and I am beginning to figure, if I am gonna shell out the money for an american standard, why not get a fiver

Quote:

Originally Posted by toddoutloud (Post 13652777)
The 5-string P is a damn fine instrument. Whatever you do, play several of them in person before purchasing.

There is a sam ash and a guitar center kind of near me but they never have more then one out. How do you play several?

Quote:

Originally Posted by thisSNsucks (Post 13652792)
Aside from personal preference the only reason not to go with a 5 is to avoid hearing "Jaco only needed 4 Strings." comments.

Nobody would ever compare me to anyone who plays well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by spade2you (Post 13652814)
The only downside is that some basses don't have a great low B string while the rest of the strings are fine.

But some are good all the way around?

Dbassmon 01-01-2013 11:29 AM

American P5 is a fine bass. If you like it, get it. There is no reason not to get it can swing the cash and like the way it sounds and plays.... alas, this is a personal decision. You would be buying a pro quality electric bass, no doubt. I have seen many references a less than great B string, i find this to be not the case. B string on my P5 is solid and clear.

Here is a review by Ed Friedland. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THITANX322E

tjnkoo 01-01-2013 11:29 AM

Because you don't want one.

Ric5 01-01-2013 11:36 AM

Any Reason NOT to buy a 5 stringer?

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1 - Laziness
2 - Stubborness
3 - Being stuck in the past

VanillaThundah 01-01-2013 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spade2you (Post 13652814)
The only downside is that some basses don't have a great low B string while the rest of the strings are fine.

+10000

Many basses I've played that were AMAZING 4-stringers were very lackluster in the 5-string models. For most people it boils down to a few things...these were my reasons for not keeping mine:

1) I never used the B NEARLY as often as I thought I would
2) Made slapping a little more cramped
3) Added cost of strings
4) Re-EQing amps and preamps to suit the B string adequately
5) Changes in string tension compared to the 4-string version
6) The interjected hammer-ons played on a downtuned E string could not be done with a 5'er.


Honestly I think 5'ers are great and very essential in certain forms of music (really detuned metal, jazz, religious music, etc) but just not for what my bands are usually doing. The cost-to-benefit ratio just wasn't in my favor with the 5'ers. I could tune my bass to drop d and only be short 3 notes from what a 5'er can do. I'd strongly recommend getting a used, inexpensive 5 string like an Ibanez or Schecter to get a feel for how often you would really use a 5'er in your music. Just disregard feel and tone for the time being and see how often you will really need to belt out a note that only the low B can do for you. You may surprise yourself :bassist:

Mojo-Man 01-01-2013 11:44 AM

:cool:

The Amer. Std. P5 is a sweet bass.
I have one, after a pickup height ajustment B-string was great
for a 34" bass.
Very light weight, mine is 8.5 pounds.
Do you need a 5-string?
Or is it just want? I use mine maybe for 40% of my playing.

Doner Designs 01-01-2013 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unrepresented (Post 13652755)
Off the top of my head:

a) You dislike heavier basses
b) You dislike wider necks
c) You dislike paying more for strings
d) You don't want to adjust to new hand positions

I'm not anti-5 string, but those all seem like viable reasons to go against it if you're looking for them. There's certainly a list of similar advantages as well.

Because of all of the above, I am a 4 string player. Each 4 has a Hipshot Xtender and low D is usually low enough.

I have a Steinberger 5 that doubles as an emergency 5 (never had that emergency yet) and a traveler.

The only time the 5 helps me out is when I'm trying to figure out scale patterns by ear and it is easeir for me to "see" them when not using any open strings.

deeptubes 01-01-2013 11:52 AM

My ESP 5er just didn't suit me. I found I rarely used the B. Tried multiple different tunings - B>G, D>C, E>C. I found I had more use for the E>C tuning, but didn't play it anywhere near enough to justify keeping it. Sold it last spring and got another 4. But, what doesn't work for me may work for someone else.

Doner Designs 01-01-2013 11:54 AM

Also, you might try stringing up one 4 string as BEAD to see how much you actually use the B string...or get a cheapo, like an SX to try it out.

I love the sound of a low D, but when its time to play a B or C I think it sounds better an octave up - fretted on the A string.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rotis (Post 13652703)
In my quest for the tone I have been looking for I finally realized that the tone I am after is the classic P-Bass sound. Initially I was not a fan of the look of the Precision bass but it has really grown on me because of the sound.

Since I realized all this I have had my heart set on a Fender American Standard P. While I have been shopping I have begun to look at the P5 which leads me to the question:

Is there a reason NOT to buy the Fender American Standard P Bass V? Help a brother out.


Unrepresented 01-01-2013 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doner Designs (Post 13652951)
Because of all of the above, I am a 4 string player. Each 4 has a Hipshot Xtender and low D is usually low enough.

I have a Steinberger 5 that doubles as an emergency 5 (never had that emergency yet) and a traveler.

The only time the 5 helps me out is when I'm trying to figure out scale patterns by ear and it is easeir for me to "see" them when not using any open strings.

I have drop D-tuners on my two main basses as well, and have shifted heavily to playing with a low D on much of my band's newer material whereas just a couple years ago, everything was written and performed in standard.


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