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01-13-2013, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Edward G. The shifts aren't a big deal to me. What I will concede is it's nice to have the low Eb and D. Beyond that, I don't really care about the notes below them. For my ear and equipment, they are largely unusable.
On a practical, mechanical level, the interchangeability of bodies and and necks among fours is substantial. Fivers are far more proprietary in nature. Because of all this, all things being equal, I'll probably choose a four. | Absolutely. That is why I stick with the 4. I never used anything below the D...which I would like to have. Not enough to use a 5 all the time.
I tried the hipshot but could never get it to tune right. I'm sure it was me and not the machine.
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01-13-2013, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by micgtr71 Absolutely. That is why I stick with the 4. I never used anything below the D...which I would like to have. Not enough to use a 5 all the time.
I tried the hipshot but could never get it to tune right. I'm sure it was me and not the machine. | The Hipshot tuners seem to sound better when detuned if you have an angled headstock. Unfortunately, it doesn't toggle back and forth reliably if you have an angled headstock. They work alright, but should probably be adjusted after a few flicks if you really like being in tune. | 
01-13-2013, 03:21 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sweden | | | I still have a good active J 5:er for those moments, but after 25 years of strictly 5 strings I'm back to passive, vintagey 4-stringed J's and P's. Since I don't play neither gospel nor modern metal 4 strings is enough for 99% of what I do.
GASing for a 5-string passive P though, to keep a great and functional sound while covering the last percent ;-) | 
01-13-2013, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Taurusmoo I still have a good active J 5:er for those moments, but after 25 years of strictly 5 strings I'm back to passive, vintagey 4-stringed J's and P's. Since I don't play neither gospel nor modern metal 4 strings is enough for 99% of what I do.
GASing for a 5-string passive P though, to keep a great and functional sound while covering the last percent ;-) | Yeah, a good passive 5 is what I want - I do wonder if a lot of people who reckon their B is fine would feel the same with no EQ/pre.
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01-13-2013, 03:29 PM
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01-13-2013, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by topo morto "If it doesn't have a B string, it isn't a bass". | That's funny, considering bassists got along for many, many years just fine without a B string. | 
01-13-2013, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DrSpunkwater That's funny, considering bassists got along for many, many years just fine without a B string. | None of those years were in my lifetime. And I have grey hairs...
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01-13-2013, 03:42 PM
|  | Registered User Endorsing Artist: FEA Labs, Jule Amps | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: los angeles, CA | | | Played nothing but 5 B-G for a decade, then went back to 4 to relearn the instrument. These days I'm playing a fair amount of 5 as well, but strung E-C with a drop D tuner. I'm able to function fine without the B, though once in awhile I wish I had it, usually when playing in F (so I could be up at the 6th fret).
All basses are a compromise, and I approach 4 different from 5. For the stuff I'm doing I find the C to be quite useful. There are times I could use the B as well, but then in reality I should go 6 and I'm not willing to do that at this point in time for a variety of reasons.
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01-13-2013, 03:45 PM
|  | Registered Loser | | Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: St. Louis | | | " If it doesn't have a B string it isn't a bass".
Um, wrong.
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01-13-2013, 03:50 PM
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01-13-2013, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Floyd Eye " If it doesn't have a B string it isn't a bass".
Um, wrong. | I'm sure I wrote more than just that...
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01-13-2013, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by topo morto I'm sure I wrote more than just that... |
Right you are.
"Personally I've always felt that (for me) "If it doesn't have a B string, it isn't a bass".
Still wrong.
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01-13-2013, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by topo morto Yeah, a good passive 5 is what I want - I do wonder if a lot of people who reckon their B is fine would feel the same with no EQ/pre. | That's a good question. My 5er is active, and I wouldn't have it any other way. It seems to me that a B string on a passive bass would sound like it's seriously missing the earth shaking lows of an active bass IMHO.
Am I wrong?
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01-13-2013, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Floyd Eye Right you are.
"Personally I've always felt that (for me) "If it doesn't have a B string, it isn't a bass".
Still wrong. | Quote:
Originally Posted by topo morto It's just a personal feeling that "there is a lot of bass below E - shouldn't an instrument called the bass be able to handle the whole useable 'bass' range?" | Surely a valid point?
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01-13-2013, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Floyd Eye Right you are.
"Personally I've always felt that (for me) "If it doesn't have a B string, it isn't a bass".
Still wrong. | Um no. It's a personal take and your opinion doesn't matter in that.
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01-13-2013, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by topo morto Surely a valid point? | There is also a lot of useable range missing from every single 20 or 22 fret guitar, no? Why not take it a step further and say that it isn't a bass if it has less than 12 strings and doesn't go down to 17.32Hz?
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01-13-2013, 04:02 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Christiansburg, VA | | | I've been all over 4 to 5 to 4 to 6 to 4 now I'm back to a 6, and I'm not going back.
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01-13-2013, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by topo morto
It's just a personal feeling that "there is a lot of bass below E - shouldn't an instrument called the bass be able to handle the whole useable 'bass' range?"
Surely a valid point?
| Not all that valid, really. You'll need more than five strings to cover the "whole" range.
With a low B you're merely covering "more" of the bass range than with four strings.
Besides, a "real" bass only has four strings, commonly known as... The double bass, the string bass, upright bass, bass fiddle, bass violin , doghouse bass, contrabass, bass viol, stand-up bass or bull fiddle.
They look like this...surely you've seen one?  | 
01-13-2013, 04:26 PM
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Anyone moved away from bothering with a B-string?
| Yeah, within a week of getting a 5-string.
There are just so many cumulative hassles innate to the concept relative to any compelling advantages that to blow off 5s was a very easy and obvious decision.
I think if people understood the traditional, formal role of bass instrumentation in ensemble music, they would make a lot more conservative and sensible choices in their gear.
"Modern bass guitar" has become something very different from bass.
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01-13-2013, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by topo morto Yeah, a good passive 5 is what I want - I do wonder if a lot of people who reckon their B is fine would feel the same with no EQ/pre. |
Don't care - I like both my passives and actives, so it's a non-issue for me...
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