Bigger neck = deep bass ?

[Jim Carr]

Originally Posted by Clef_de_fa

there is more to it than that. There is a little cylinder of pine held in place by the pressure the top and back of the instrument make. The cylinder is place on the bass side of the bridge.

the cylinder take the vibration of the bridge and transfer it to the back ( which is a harder wood ) and thus the vibration move the air out of the instrument. Without that little cylinder a violin would be dead silent.

Yes, the sound post (and bridge) transmit energy to the top of violins, basses, etc. Yes, the back is harder and denser and resonates differently from the top. They both resonate (respond differently at different frequencies) when vibrated, especially when coupled with the sound post.

I think we need to be clear as to what kind of resonance, mechanical or acoustic we are referring to, which I concede, I neglected. In any case, a wood block of ebony or grenadilla is resonant when struck, more than a spruce block.

A thin wooden top or indeed a bridge or string are also resonant. My point is just that density alone does not determine resonance.

[bassdog]

I've always wondered if the beefy Precision neck had something to do with the overall P tone. Hmmmm.

Bob

[Jim Carr]

Originally Posted by Clef_de_fa

My claim is it takes more than high density wood or a soft wood to make an instrument resonate.

In the case of a violin without that little cylinder the instrument would be dead silent.

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I think we mostly agree, although in my experience with fallen sound posts, bowed strings are soft and anemic sounding without the sound post in place, but not "dead silent."

[AuntieBeeb]

I don't know about tone, but I know a couple of guitarists who are convinced they get better sustain from guitars with thicker necks.

[petrus61]

Look at the original short scale EB-0 basses. Practically guitar necks and there still isn't another bass that packs more bottom. Hofner being another example. My friend owns a 62 that has massive low end, arguably more so than any long scale I've ever encountered. A lot of it is in the pickups but I don't think neck size has a bearing on 'bass', per se.

[Ric5]

Bigger Neck = More Hand Cramps

[Ric5]

Originally Posted by petrus61

Look at the original short scale EB-0 basses. Practically guitar necks and there still isn't another bass that packs more bottom. Hofner being another example. My friend owns a 62 that has massive low end, arguably more so than any long scale I've ever encountered. A lot of it is in the pickups but I don't think neck size has a bearing on 'bass', per se.

What that proves is ...


Neck Pickup = More Bass

[bikeplate]

Roger Sadowsky thinks so. We talked about one of my 5 strings needing less bass boost than my 4s. He said it was the mass of the neck

[sevdog]

It can but it's just one of the many variables.

[petrus61]

Originally Posted by Ric5

What that proves is ...


Neck Pickup = More Bass

That too, essentially meaning neck size is possibly not a contributing factor at all.

[Clef_de_fa]

Originally Posted by Jim Carr

I think we mostly agree, although in my experience with fallen sound posts, bowed strings are soft and anemic sounding without the sound post in place, but not "dead silent."

haha yeah we agree on the same thing. I don't know for a violin but I tried a DB without it and it was almost dead silent and unusable outside of playing alone especially playing pizzicato.

[mongo2]

I've shaved and re-profiled several shortscale necks to very narrow sizes (1-3/8" at the nut and 1-11/16" at the 19th fret similar to a Vox Hawk IV profile) with no noticeable sonic changes.

My pencil-necked Squier Performer basses exhibit no deficiencies either.