Club Alleva-Coppolo (Part 20)

[KJung]

Originally Posted by basses55

I agree on those points, but I think another (secondary) reason in the mix for some manufacturers is to develop new artist relations and have existing artists " show the flag".
This helps create and continue a "buzz". I'm not saying this aspect is the main reason they attend but I think given the coverage by media, online sites and forums, and having the opportunity to include NAMM happenings in their advertising to the public, NAMM adds some value for marketing generally. Maybe now especially with the internet.

NAMM also creates a consumer focus and some anticipation amongst a growing number of consumers...it does create some buzz and excitement beyond the seed of manufacturers just selling to retailers IMO. But I agree not every company wants or needs that though as you say.

+1 in general. Given the cost, not sure that NAMM is the best venue any more for that, but those bass hangs, like the one in February that Jimmy is attending and sponsoring (posted above in this thread), is key for the type of thing you are talking about, and is, I assume, pretty cost efficient.

Edit: Also +1 that Jimmy's massive buzz on Talkbass was (if I remember correctly) really kicked off by all of us seeing that beautiful array of instruments 5 or 6 years ago (or whenever) when the NAMM pictures were posted. Roger Sadowsky, Mesa, etc. all put their time in at NAMM, and IMO (just like Jimmy) were smart enough to know when the cost and hassle resulted in that 'diminishing returns' point. +1 that it can really kick off a brand if all the planets align.

[Vic]

Originally Posted by rastap

Coppolo not doing NAMM. Sadowsky not doing NAMM. Suhr not doing NAMM. It appears the smaller highly successful builders no longer find NAMM necessary to facilitate their business goals.

Yep. An unnecessary expense. NAMM was designed to provide a convenient way to expand your customer base and/or enhance your supply chain. If you need neither, it's a waste of time/money. It's become more than that in recent years, for better or for worse, but it's still very useful for its original intent, except for maybe Saturday (public day).

[mgbass]

"but it's still very useful for its original intent, except for maybe Saturday (public day)."
Amen to that brother, now they are doing Sat and Sun open to public. Tells me less folks are going in general.

[basses55]

Originally Posted by KJung

+1 in general. Given the cost, not sure that NAMM is the best venue any more for that, but those bass hangs, like the one in February that Jimmy is attending and sponsoring (posted above in this thread), is key for the type of thing you are talking about, and is, I assume, pretty cost efficient.

Edit: Also +1 that Jimmy's massive buzz on Talkbass was (if I remember correctly) really kicked off by all of us seeing that beautiful array of instruments 5 or 6 years ago (or whenever) when the NAMM pictures were posted. Roger Sadowsky, Mesa, etc. all put their time in at NAMM, and IMO (just like Jimmy) were smart enough to know when the cost and hassle resulted in that 'diminishing returns' point. +1 that it can really kick off a brand if all the planets align.

Not nearly the number of profile players or artists will attend Bassacre vs NAMM. Again, the profile/marketing aspect of NAMM is legit and valid depending on the stage and goal of the individual company..like you intimated.
IMO its too broad a generalization to say that NAMM is no longer cost effective for all companies as some might say.....

Seems like a heck of a lot of manufacturers see enough value for them to attend every year, and I dont think every bean counter in those companies just want a week in the sun or to have some drinks with friends in LA

[Vic]

Originally Posted by mgbass

"but it's still very useful for its original intent, except for maybe Saturday (public day)."
Amen to that brother, now they are doing Sat and Sun open to public. Tells me less folks are going in general.

Actually, attendance has been ramping (back) up in recent years... I've been tracking the numbers. And Sunday being open to the public is not that big of a deal. Everybody knows you gotta get most/all your work done on Thu-Fri, and then just do pickup work over the weekend. At least IME/IMHO.

[vpermana]

Hi All,
I wonder if any of you had similar problem in the past with AC Pre-Amp.
I am a hobbyist player, never take the bass for a gig. As a matter of fact, I only play it through cafe walter.

Symptom #1:
Yesterday, I activated the pre-amp, but there was no volume different (sounds like passive). Turned the bass and treble knobs, felt the tone different but volume stayed the same as it was in passive mode.

Since I have been playing it for a year, so I thought maybe it needed a new battery.
I then replaced the battery. Closed the back cover.

Symptom #2:
BUt when I activated the Pre-AMp...dead silent, no sounds as you played the string

I opened it, checked the battery, no disconnected wire. I reinstall the battery again. Put it back the cover. Activated the pre-Amp...and back to Sympton #1

I slap gently the bass, then Pre-Amp become active

Symptom #3:
I de-Activated the pre-Amp. I unplugged the instrument cable, and put back on ... suddenly the the Pre-Amp ON before I even pushed the knob

Symptom #4:
Another thing, during passive mode: when I backed up the bridge pick up volume know a little bit, it creates hum noise a lot louder than before as well as louder than if I back up the neck pick up volume. But if I back up the neck, it doesn't create hum noise as loud as before. The bridge volume knob also feel a little loose when you turning it.

What's goin on here? Did I short circuit something? Do you know where I can have it fixed without sending it to Jimmy yet here in DC/MD/VA ($350 R/T just for shipping to SoCal)

Any help is appreciated

Thanks

[rictrose]

Hi AC lovers - this question is for any local LA people.. Im travelling from Australia to USA in July this year... Im keen to make a trip out to jimmy's shop in Upland CA, what is the best way to travel out to Upland from Downtown LA? (or city central) train? greyhound? hire car?
If anyone has any tips or info, i would be very appreciative, please PM though so as not to de-rail the thread...
...and back to the basses...mmm

[ursus]

LG Basic NF with Jimmy wood board

[svtb15]

Without seeing the bass and having it in my hands to eval, it Seems you may have two issues.
Now im guessing at this since i cant see teh bass and wiggle it as i would if it were here.
1. It seems almost as if you are not getting battery power to the preamp... Isi it a loose solder, broken wire, corrosion on teh output jack (which is a switch to the battery)? DOnt know.. Bu i would go though those wires and under teh shrink wrap if nessasary.

2,. Remove the Knob, and tighten the pots nut to secure it.. ALSO be sure that the solder terminals on teh underside of teh pot inside of teh cavity are not bent and touching the mounting surface.. There is Shielding paint underneath the paint colour inside of the control cavity... if there is a bent terminal on the pot and it is rubbing against the mount surface, it could go though the paint and short to the shield paint underneath... Finally double check your output jack.. When a jack is inserted, be sure it has not twisted over time and the spring tip is not touching the internal shielding paint..
Like i said i cant see it and play with it to really give it an eval... a simple shake test can reveal alot with intermittent ghosts in the machine..
Let us know what happens

Originally Posted by vpermana

Hi All,
I wonder if any of you had similar problem in the past with AC Pre-Amp.
I am a hobbyist player, never take the bass for a gig. As a matter of fact, I only play it through cafe walter.

Symptom #1:
Yesterday, I activated the pre-amp, but there was no volume different (sounds like passive). Turned the bass and treble knobs, felt the tone different but volume stayed the same as it was in passive mode.

Since I have been playing it for a year, so I thought maybe it needed a new battery.
I then replaced the battery. Closed the back cover.

Symptom #2:
BUt when I activated the Pre-AMp...dead silent, no sounds as you played the string

I opened it, checked the battery, no disconnected wire. I reinstall the battery again. Put it back the cover. Activated the pre-Amp...and back to Sympton #1

I slap gently the bass, then Pre-Amp become active

Symptom #3:
I de-Activated the pre-Amp. I unplugged the instrument cable, and put back on ... suddenly the the Pre-Amp ON before I even pushed the knob

Symptom #4:
Another thing, during passive mode: when I backed up the bridge pick up volume know a little bit, it creates hum noise a lot louder than before as well as louder than if I back up the neck pick up volume. But if I back up the neck, it doesn't create hum noise as loud as before. The bridge volume knob also feel a little loose when you turning it.

What's goin on here? Did I short circuit something? Do you know where I can have it fixed without sending it to Jimmy yet here in DC/MD/VA ($350 R/T just for shipping to SoCal)

Any help is appreciated

Thanks

[sondich]

Originally Posted by svtb15

It's here! 2013 St Valentines Day Bassarce Who's going?

count me in

[Dan Knowlton]

Originally Posted by mgbass

"but it's still very useful for its original intent, except for maybe Saturday (public day)."
Amen to that brother, now they are doing Sat and Sun open to public. Tells me less folks are going in general.

I thought the public day was limited to the Summer NAMM. Am I wrong?

Dan K.

[biosfer]

so..i will be in the club soon i chosed my kbp4 and begin to wait

[peterpalmieri]

My random update.

New LM5 arrived June 2010. Still love it, it's my only electric bass and still has not had a truss rod adjustment.

Hope all is well with you guys, still follow along but rarely post!

Pete

[KJung]

Originally Posted by peterpalmieri

My random update.

New LM5 arrived June 2010. Still love it, it's my only electric bass and still has not had a truss rod adjustment.

Hope all is well with you guys, still follow along but rarely post!

Pete

Hey Pete!!!! Good to see you on the boards.

Me too... LM5 still going strong, and STILL have not had to adjust the neck in the 6 years or so that I've had it. Rock solid!!!! Best bass I've ever owned on many levels!

[Musicfreak1988]

Just changed my order (LG-5 Custom) to a KBP-5 Custom with a Jimmywood fingerboard, in a finish à la George Harrison's Strat... I'm hoping for a delivery towards the end of this year / early 2014 .

[vpermana]

Why his preamp so different? What is the layout

[Sean Baumann]

Originally Posted by vpermana

Why his preamp so different? What is the layout

I thought I read somewhere that he put an Aguilar pre in there. That would explain the stacked knob.

[YCBass]

Originally Posted by Sean Baumann

I thought I read somewhere that he put an Aguilar pre in there. That would explain the stacked knob.

That's exactly right Sean... Paul has an OBP-3 in there. I played his 2nd/current LG5 w/ a Honduran RW board before it left the shop... What a bass, I really connected with it.

[RS]

I notice on my A-Cs that the tone pot doesn't have much or any effect until it is rolled almost all of the way off. Is that normal, and can I change the tone pot to a different value one to remedy (and to what value)?

[KJung]

Originally Posted by RS

I notice on my A-Cs that the tone pot doesn't have much or any effect until it is rolled almost all of the way off. Is that normal, and can I change the tone pot to a different value one to remedy (and to what value)?

Mine is very even through its entire taper. It doesn't 'jump' like some, but is very even.

Something not right there, unless maybe due to your string choice and amplification choice you aren't hearing much treble and upper mids to begin with.