Club F-bass (Part VII)

[Tom7]

Originally Posted by narud

if anything, i think if youre a rookie builder, it would be easier to f up a neck through because if you get the neck pitch wrong, you cant shim the neck to get the action lower. youre left with countersinking the bridge into the body.

This definitely make sense, and I think George's point says pretty much the same thing.

Originally Posted by George Furlanet

Generally yes, as the neck-through construction adds compression to the instrument, so that the strings vibrate less......but not always as every instrument is a very individual piece, with varying string tension, mass, density and a multitude of other variables.

Assume two perfectly built basses, one bolt on and one neck through...

If the compression of the neck through bass causes a string to vibrate less, then obviously the string can be set a tad closer to the frets.

However, as George wrote, there are a "multitude of other variables" to consider as well, which is what Joe seems to be saying too.

For example, the bolt on bass could have a top which likewise provides a natural compression to the bass, giving its strings the same vibration considerations as the neck through.

So while "generally" a neck through can be set lower...

"Every instrument is a very individual piece, with varying string tension, mass, density" etc., so it's by no means a given that neck throughs have an advantage when it comes to low set ups.

In short, both Joe and George are right, and I was misleading when I wrote that my fretted AC6 has a lower set up BECAUSE it is a neck through.

Hopefully all that made sense.

[hyperba55]

My fault.

This one is on it's way to me. It will join my BN5, BN6, and BNF6. I'll post pics of all of them once I get the AC.

BTW, my BNF6 is neck though, and it makes a difference!!

[George Furlanet]

Originally Posted by TheSiberian

Hi Tom

I would really like to see a back photo as I intend to order about the same wood combination.
Best regards

The back!

[Vic]

@action height vs neck-thru/bolt-on,

If it is generally true there's more compression with a neck-through as George says, then it also does stand to reason you could potentially set the action a bit lower since the strings move a bit less.

However, even if that's true, I wonder if it's enough to make a practical difference... at least on a fretted bass... maybe a fretless, though.

That said, It's been a while since I've had a neck through, so I can't validate this myself, but I've heard from lots of people that neck through designs do have a slightly more compressed sound, which would support George's comments.

All I know is, given a good neck and fret level, I've never had a problem getting my action down as low as I'd ever need it on either style.

FWIW, anyway.

[DonovanBankhead]

Hi Everyone,

First, thank you so much for all the kind words that you all have said about me. Without a doubt, the only kind of real advertising I can afford is word of mouth, and I'm so fortunate to have great friends and customers evidently are happy to be my advertisers!

Okay, now on to the important stuff!

Feast your eyes on these beauties!

[TheSiberian]

Originally Posted by George Furlanet

The back!

Thank you George,

One more question please; this kind of neck with the two fine stripes (ebony or bubinga?) is considered the optional five pieces neck or the stripes are only for visual effect?
It is likely that after my AC5 neckthru will be finished the AC6 fretted will be the next move.
As I told you before; awesome piece of Art!
Best regards

[tombowlus]

Originally Posted by DonovanBankhead

Hi Everyone,

First, thank you so much for all the kind words that you all have said about me. Without a doubt, the only kind of real advertising I can afford is word of mouth, and I'm so fortunate to have great friends and customers evidently are happy to be my advertisers!

Okay, now on to the important stuff!

Feast your eyes on these beauties!

Nice!

[George Furlanet]

Originally Posted by TheSiberian

Thank you George,

One more question please; this kind of neck with the two fine stripes (ebony or bubinga?) is considered the optional five pieces neck or the stripes are only for visual effect?
It is likely that after my AC5 neckthru will be finished the AC6 fretted will be the next move.
As I told you before; awesome piece of Art!
Best regards

The black "lines" are dyed pearwood, and yes that is a 5 piece neck.
Thanks for your kind words, Sib.

[Tom7]

Originally Posted by hyperba55

My fault.

This one is on it's way to me. It will join my BN5, BN6, and BNF6. I'll post pics of all of them once I get the AC.

BTW, my BNF6 is neck though, and it makes a difference!!

Nice. It's good to find a fellow multi-Fbass owner. I'm looking forward to see photos of the rest of the basses.

This roster update welcomes hyperba55 to the club.



CLUB FBASS ROSTER
(Updated 06 November 2010)

1. George_Furlanet (Number assigned by club vote)
2. Tombowlus - BN4, BN5, VF5
3. Puff_father - BN5
4. Debassed - BNF5
5. ThumbyAche - BN5, GFC
6. brandonwong - BN6, BN6 custom, AC6, BNF5, BNF5(2), BN5 custom
7. Tom7 - AC6, BN5, BN6, VF5, fretted AC6
8. Erick Lam - Vintage Fretless 5
9. knarleybass - BN5, BN6
10. Reefer - BN5, BN4?
11. VinceLovesF - BN5, AC5
12. T._Brookins - BN5
13. DonovanBankhead - BN5
14. Speyer - BN6 (b)
15. jmilky - BN5
16. edel - BN5
17. administrator - BN5
18. Dave Hill - BN5, (b), VF4
19. FbassDave - BN5, BNF5
20. Vic - VF5
21. Georges_Abitbol - BN5 (b) (c)
22. xav_paris - BN5, (b)
23. Munjibunga - BN5
24. Toolmybass - ?
25. Modny - Studio5, Prototype
26. mikoespanol - AC5
27. Ron_Plichta - BN5
28. Gbarchus - BNF5
29. nuwavedc - BN5
30. JerryJ - BN5, BN6, AC5
31. yansdgr - BNF5
32. firebass - AC5, AC6
33. <reserved for the return of choad42>
34. donstrenz - Vintage 4 (stolen)
35. Gilsonite - Studio6
36. Tjluke - BN6, AC6
37. cabooke - BNF5
38. Brad Johnson - Studio5
39. MHemmber - BN4
40. FortressOne - BN5
41. dreamwood - BN6
42. wolfbass1025 - BN6, AC5, 2
43. funkydanbass - AC6
44. Phillip Jordan - BN5
45. Halftooth - BN5
46. thndrstk6 - BN6
47. funkifiedsoul - Vintage4
48. Trapeze Fan - BN5
49. Poppsyche - BN6
50. Groovy Bastard - BN6
51. Kemet09 - Vintage4
52. ModulusAcacia - AC5
53. bassjam - BN5
54. ad9000 - BN6
55. Basses55 - BN5
56. Kevin Woods - BNF6
57. pierreganseman - BN5
58. DiDi G - BN6
59. Greggles - BN4
60. kotzman - AC5
61. Alphaman - BN6
62. remigioremigio - BN5
63. JensWest - BN5
64. eduardxtb - BN6
65. dveeus1 - BNF5, BN5
66. paulvienneau - BN6, AC6
67. bdgotoh - BN4
68. rabster - VF5, AC5
69. funkygeos - BN5
70. fusoid - AC6, BN6
71. WovenGraphite - BN6 (b), AC6 (b)
72. rnlytton - AC6, AC6-LW, BN5 (piccolo), 3 BN6s!
73. bardlute - AC5
74. chrisloe - BN6, b
75. Iposavad - BNF5
76. yinghock - BN5
77. pocketmonster - BN5
78. bassment bn5 - BN5
79. hairman - BN6, BNF5,
80. JOEP054 - AC5, BN5, VF5
81. p0k - VF5
82. jmilkey - BN5
83. Bass Junkie - AC4, (with a VF4 being built!)
84. narud - VF5,
85. BIg O - Studio 5, Passive 6, BN5, more photos
86. felicidade - BNF5
87. Drone80 - BN5, VF5
88. steve f - BN5
89. Fbassed - BN5, AC5
90. rick1906 - BN5
91. Romu - BN5
92. Bajosintrastos - BNF5
93. jimc - BN5, VF5
94. cfequa - BN5
95. mrbassman_de - AC5, BN5
96. Graham Monette - BN5
97. Shelly - VF5
98. tonenazi - BN5
99. Abacobob - BN5
100. jogi68 - BN5 (studio), BN5 (defretted), VF5, AC5, BN6, NY5, VF5
101. ManuBerdin - Studio, BNF5
102. rvf42 - BN5
103. kuma9 - BN5 (wide nut)
104. jbay - BN6
105. INGALL'S - BN6
106. BIGGUY78 - VF5
107. KERMITNT-BN5
108. Ewo - BN5
109. frizzle - BN5
110. t0t0m - BN5
111. blen dem - BN5
112. francoprof - BNF6
113. bassistck - BNF5
114. Sirmike75 - BN5
115. Stereo Joe - Vintage BN5
116. starKey - VF5
117. eaflyaway - AC5
118. hyperba55 - AC4,
119. <Your name could be here!>

Former Fbass owners:
GRoberts, AJ Brown, JRB, jmondick, ursus, Freddy-G, Adrian Garcia, Yvon, dean82, smperry, Ryan_L, rodneyat, 123eranoid, Gordon of Eden, choad42, black.rose1402, blen dem, Jonno1707 - AC5, Quadzilla - BN4, BN5, ?, RoboChrist - BN4, blen dem - BN5, BassBoss - AC5, KJung - VF5, Bassconbeatz - BN6,

[Tom7]

Originally Posted by George Furlanet

The back!

Thanks, George.

[azure]

Wow, Donnovan, those are awesome!
How is the MM pickup wired?
A video review would be terrific. =)

[bassment bn5]

I haven't updated my profile in awhile so I thought I would include a picture of my most recent Fbass acquisitions.
In adddition to my sunburst ash/maple BN5 and now I also have a sunburst alder/rosewood VF5 and a white ash/maple VF5.

It's hard to say which bass is my favorite - they all sound quite different from each other.

Fbass Club Member 78
bassment bn5

[tombowlus]

Originally Posted by bassment bn5

I haven't updated my profile in awhile so I thought I would include a picture of my most recent Fbass acquisitions.
In adddition to my sunburst ash/maple BN5 and now I also have a sunburst alder/rosewood VF5 and a white ash/maple VF5.

It's hard to say which bass is my favorite - they all sound quite different from each other.

Fbass Club Member 78
bassment bn5

That is a heck of a nice Fbass collection, there! Very nice!

[Drone80]

+1

[narud]

Originally Posted by bassment bn5

I haven't updated my profile in awhile so I thought I would include a picture of my most recent Fbass acquisitions.
In adddition to my sunburst ash/maple BN5 and now I also have a sunburst alder/rosewood VF5 and a white ash/maple VF5.

It's hard to say which bass is my favorite - they all sound quite different from each other.

Fbass Club Member 78
bassment bn5

fantastic collection. george builds a hell of a bass!

[Tom7]

Originally Posted by bassment bn5

I haven't updated my profile in awhile so I thought I would include a picture of my most recent Fbass acquisitions.
In adddition to my sunburst ash/maple BN5 and now I also have a sunburst alder/rosewood VF5 and a white ash/maple VF5.

It's hard to say which bass is my favorite - they all sound quite different from each other.

Fbass Club Member 78
bassment bn5

VERY nice!

Tonight's roster update adds 2 VF5s to bassment's membership: a 70s flavor and a 60s flavor.

CLUB FBASS ROSTER
(Updated 07 November 2010)

1. George_Furlanet (Number assigned by club vote)
2. Tombowlus - BN4, BN5, VF5
3. Puff_father - BN5
4. Debassed - BNF5
5. ThumbyAche - BN5, GFC
6. brandonwong - BN6, BN6 custom, AC6, BNF5, BNF5(2), BN5 custom
7. Tom7 - AC6, BN5, BN6, VF5, fretted AC6
8. Erick Lam - Vintage Fretless 5
9. knarleybass - BN5, BN6
10. Reefer - BN5, BN4?
11. VinceLovesF - BN5, AC5
12. T._Brookins - BN5
13. DonovanBankhead - BN5
14. Speyer - BN6 (b)
15. jmilky - BN5
16. edel - BN5
17. administrator - BN5
18. Dave Hill - BN5, (b), VF4
19. FbassDave - BN5, BNF5
20. Vic - VF5
21. Georges_Abitbol - BN5 (b) (c)
22. xav_paris - BN5, (b)
23. Munjibunga - BN5
24. Toolmybass - ?
25. Modny - Studio5, Prototype
26. mikoespanol - AC5
27. Ron_Plichta - BN5
28. Gbarchus - BNF5
29. nuwavedc - BN5
30. JerryJ - BN5, BN6, AC5
31. yansdgr - BNF5
32. firebass - AC5, AC6
33. <reserved for the return of choad42>
34. donstrenz - Vintage 4 (stolen)
35. Gilsonite - Studio6
36. Tjluke - BN6, AC6
37. cabooke - BNF5
38. Brad Johnson - Studio5
39. MHemmber - BN4
40. FortressOne - BN5
41. dreamwood - BN6
42. wolfbass1025 - BN6, AC5, 2
43. funkydanbass - AC6
44. Phillip Jordan - BN5
45. Halftooth - BN5
46. thndrstk6 - BN6
47. funkifiedsoul - Vintage4
48. Trapeze Fan - BN5
49. Poppsyche - BN6
50. Groovy Bastard - BN6
51. Kemet09 - Vintage4
52. ModulusAcacia - AC5
53. bassjam - BN5
54. ad9000 - BN6
55. Basses55 - BN5
56. Kevin Woods - BNF6
57. pierreganseman - BN5
58. DiDi G - BN6
59. Greggles - BN4
60. kotzman - AC5
61. Alphaman - BN6
62. remigioremigio - BN5
63. JensWest - BN5
64. eduardxtb - BN6
65. dveeus1 - BNF5, BN5
66. paulvienneau - BN6, AC6
67. bdgotoh - BN4
68. rabster - VF5, AC5
69. funkygeos - BN5
70. fusoid - AC6, BN6
71. WovenGraphite - BN6 (b), AC6 (b)
72. rnlytton - AC6, AC6-LW, BN5 (piccolo), 3 BN6s!
73. bardlute - AC5
74. chrisloe - BN6, b
75. Iposavad - BNF5
76. yinghock - BN5
77. pocketmonster - BN5
78. bassment bn5 - BN5, VF5, VF5
79. hairman - BN6, BNF5,
80. JOEP054 - AC5, BN5, VF5
81. p0k - VF5
82. jmilkey - BN5
83. Bass Junkie - AC4, (with a VF4 being built!)
84. narud - VF5,
85. BIg O - Studio 5, Passive 6, BN5, more photos
86. felicidade - BNF5
87. Drone80 - BN5, VF5
88. steve f - BN5
89. Fbassed - BN5, AC5
90. rick1906 - BN5
91. Romu - BN5
92. Bajosintrastos - BNF5
93. jimc - BN5, VF5
94. cfequa - BN5
95. mrbassman_de - AC5, BN5
96. Graham Monette - BN5
97. Shelly - VF5
98. tonenazi - BN5
99. Abacobob - BN5
100. jogi68 - BN5 (studio), BN5 (defretted), VF5, AC5, BN6, NY5, VF5
101. ManuBerdin - Studio, BNF5
102. rvf42 - BN5
103. kuma9 - BN5 (wide nut)
104. jbay - BN6
105. INGALL'S - BN6
106. BIGGUY78 - VF5
107. KERMITNT-BN5
108. Ewo - BN5
109. frizzle - BN5
110. t0t0m - BN5
111. blen dem - BN5
112. francoprof - BNF6
113. bassistck - BNF5
114. Sirmike75 - BN5
115. Stereo Joe - Vintage BN5
116. starKey - VF5
117. eaflyaway - AC5
118. hyperba55 - AC4,
119. <Your name could be here!>

Former Fbass owners:
GRoberts, AJ Brown, JRB, jmondick, ursus, Freddy-G, Adrian Garcia, Yvon, dean82, smperry, Ryan_L, rodneyat, 123eranoid, Gordon of Eden, choad42, black.rose1402, blen dem, Jonno1707 - AC5, Quadzilla - BN4, BN5, ?, RoboChrist - BN4, blen dem - BN5, BassBoss - AC5, KJung - VF5, Bassconbeatz - BN6,

[hyperba55]

Originally Posted by Tom7

Nice. It's good to find a fellow multi-Fbass owner. I'm looking forward to see photos of the rest of the basses.

I don't think I have any pics of my BN5 (it's black and maple) but here are my two 6'ers. I'll post some family shots once the AC is here ...

[George Furlanet]

Originally Posted by azure

Wow, Donnovan, those are awesome!
How is the MM pickup wired?
A video review would be terrific. =)

The MM is wired single coil (coil nearest the bridge), or both coils.

[Drone80]

So far we've seen alot of typical VF5 wood combi
70's Ash/Maple 60's Alder/RW
Wondering how other combi/permutation might sound.
70's Alder/Maple 70's Ash/RW

[Vic]

Originally Posted by Drone80

So far we've seen alot of typical VF5 wood combi
70's Ash/Maple 60's Alder/RW
Wondering how other combi/permutation might sound.
70's Alder/Maple 70's Ash/RW

I believe tombowlus has a 60's ash/rosewood model, and of course he loves it.