Club Sadowsky (Part 29)

[roadkill2309]

Originally Posted by Firesalt

Are you not getting enough mids or low mids? Is cutting thru an issue? Is it only certain notes that are an issue? More data is needed to make an accurate diagnosis.

Nope. I cut through just fine. In fact, the missus once said that it's a whole new world; I can be heard just fine without turning up too loud in the mix. Since I don't sound all scooped on all systems/amps/PAs, I know it's not something I'm going to have to change pups over.

The thing is, with my Lakland and my P, I've literally never had a scooped sound issue, so I don't even know how to describe it in terms of mids/low mids. I know that the mids (of some sort) are dropping out, though.

This is my first jazz bass, so I really have no experience with EQing a jj bass.

Originally Posted by Firesalt

+1
Usually I would boost a little around 400 with a med Q when bass was too muddy/boomy and cut a little (like 2db max) on the low end on the bass channel to address the issue. YMMV due to speaker selection and room design.

Now *that's* what I'm talking about. I'll give that a try to start. Thanks!

[Firesalt]

Originally Posted by roadkill2309

Nope. I cut through just fine. In fact, the missus once said that it's a whole new world; I can be heard just fine without turning up too loud in the mix. Since I don't sound all scooped on all systems/amps/PAs, I know it's not something I'm going to have to change pups over.

The thing is, with my Lakland and my P, I've literally never had a scooped sound issue, so I don't even know how to describe it in terms of mids/low mids. I know that the mids (of some sort) are dropping out, though.

This is my first jazz bass, so I really have no experience with EQing a jj bass.

Now *that's* what I'm talking about. I'll give that a try to start. Thanks!

Oh, I understand where you're coming from now... I thought you were playing a Sad PJ (doesn't everyone?). You will probably be better at 250hz then instead of 400, it will give you a little more filler (fatter) without stomping over everything else. The 400 will give you more mids push if you have trouble getting heard without making it sound all treble-y.
It sounds like one of those "my low E is fantastic but my A string feels a little... lacking" sort of thing. If your sound tech knows what he's doing it shouldn't take a minute to iron out.
At lest that's been my experience from when I used to run sound professionally.

[Firesalt]

Originally Posted by roadkill2309

I think that maybe I should take a more active role in the band's interface with the mixing board when we're gigging. I should probably know how to set things so that I'll get the tone I want...

Yes, yes you should.

[rastap]

Originally Posted by kulit17

I am now! Got to admit, it does look cool! For me its kinda sad coz Roger and crew informed me that the material I want my neck and fingerboard to be is not available and doesn't look like they have any orders coming in but hopes to get replenished within the next 60 days. So adding LEDs would push my build even longer

When i went with the order it was estimated for Dec/Jan.

**sigh** decisions!! LEDs on a roasted bird's eye maple neck and fingerboard what do u guys think?

That's exactly what I have on order. Will Lee 4 in Candy Apple Red with a parchment pick guard. ORDER UP!

[MAJOR METAL]

Originally Posted by roadkill2309

Hm. I've found myself fighting the...uh, scoopedness of the HB pups by pumping the lows. It's weird because the bass sounds amazing coming from certain Amps, but scooped as hell coming from my Ashdown setup and some PAs.

Anyone got any tips on keeping the scoop out when going through a PA? I know it's just about bumping some frequencies and minimising others, but I'm a newb at running a mixing board and the guitarist doesn't know what the problem is.

Ohhh, I switched to single coils after my bass was built. Just a little tweaking on the amp, all is good.

[Chef]

I'll second the single coils.
I didn't like the HB's in my RV5JJ so much.

[roadkill2309]

Originally Posted by MAJOR METAL

Ohhh, I switched to single coils after my bass was built. Just a little tweaking on the amp, all is good.

Originally Posted by Chef

I'll second the single coils.
I didn't like the HB's in my RV5JJ so much.

I fear the hum.

[johndough247]

Quick question (I'll call the shop during daylight whenever it is I remember to do so): Is the Sadowsky onboard Preamp (not DI outboard) still available to the public for sale? I see all of them as out of stock in the Sadowsky store and not sure if it's gonna be restocked anytime soon, if ever.

[Montanamike]

Originally Posted by roadkill2309

I fear the hum.

Fear not, Roger has really got the shielding thing figured out. He's been known for it since the 70's.

I received my first Sadowsky with singles a couple of years back and I thought the same thing. I was amazed at how little hum was present when I panned, and I live in the worlds noisiest house; short of strapping a beer sign around my neck.

I'm a true believer in the single, go for it!

[guy n. cognito]

Originally Posted by Montanamike

Fear not, Roger has really got the shielding think figured out. He's been known for it since the 70's.

I received my first Sadowsky with singles a couple of years back and I thought the same thing. I was amazed at how little hum was present when I panned, and I live in the worlds noisiest house; short of strapping a beer sign around my neck.

I'm a true believer in the single, go for it!

Not to be deceived: Roger's basses are quiet, but they DO hum when the single coils are not at equal volume. Now, I get ZERO RF hum from my Sads, but single coils gonna hum.....

[bikeplate]

Hi

They hum but are quite quiet in comparison to other makers

Rob

[mozilla314]

Originally Posted by Firesalt

Oh, I understand where you're coming from now... I thought you were playing a Sad PJ (doesn't everyone?). You will probably be better at 250hz then instead of 400, it will give you a little more filler (fatter) without stomping over everything else. The 400 will give you more mids push if you have trouble getting heard without making it sound all treble-y.
It sounds like one of those "my low E is fantastic but my A string feels a little... lacking" sort of thing. If your sound tech knows what he's doing it shouldn't take a minute to iron out.
At lest that's been my experience from when I used to run sound professionally.

I agree you with you. I have a bass with a
Bartolini active pre-amp with a 250Hz mid
boost/cut. When I add just a bit of that 250
I have no problem cutting through the mix
with a punchier type sound instead of a mid
(600hz-1k) nasal honk type tone.
I leave my amp EQ flat so that I only use the
on-board bass EQ to color the sound of the
bass.

[burk48237]

As many of you know do to financial pressures I was forced to sell my Sadowsky NYC about 4 months ago. It was a sad day as that bass was clearly "the one". Anyway, I'm now getting back on my feet a bit and on the market for a Metro. Ideally, I'd like an MV5 (w/SC's) but I'd consider an RV5 and maybe a four if the price difference was worth it. Ironically, the guy I sold my NYC too is thinking about selling, but I'm about a grand to 1500 short on that deal. But, if any of you are about to list a Metro MV or RV5, or know someone selling one please PM me.

PS: If anyone knows where my old Corsica Blue Metro RV5 (NAMM 3 0f 10) is, I'd love to get that one back if it's available. Randy Lopez sold her about a year ago, and can't remember who too.

[Chef]

I've been selling off some stuff lately; which, of course, will leave a guy/gal wondering what to do with the paypal balance.

I'd been considering one of the new G&L M2500's, and then saw this bass in classifieds here; and shoved off thoughts of the G&L.

I'm sure the M-Series are nice, and I bet I'd like them more than the L-Series (which I played for decades)...I'd sorta be surprised if this bass and the G&L M-series don't have some sonic similarities; and the Sadowsky won't leave me bothered by the G&L's narrow string spacing...

This should be here mid-next week:

[guy n. cognito]

Originally Posted by Chef

I've been selling off some stuff lately; which, of course, will leave a guy/gal wondering what to do with the paypal balance.

I'd been considering one of the new G&L M2500's, and then saw this bass in classifieds here; and shoved off thoughts of the G&L.

I'm sure the M-Series are nice, and I bet I'd like them more than the L-Series (which I played for decades)...I'd sorta be surprised if this bass and the G&L M-series don't have some sonic similarities; and the Sadowsky won't leave me bothered by the G&L's narrow string spacing...

This should be here mid-next week:

That's pretty.

[Chef]

Ain't she?

I can't imagine I'll play above 9th position any more than I ever do, so some of that fingerboard will be wasted on me. More than anything else, I just wanted to try one of these and see if it had a place in my toolbox.

I've enjoyed the Sadowsky PJ experiment; and while I do have one I've more or less bonded with, it's not going to ascend to First Tier Assault Weapon status. Maybe this won't either, time will tell.

[PDK]

I've been wondering the same thing. I sent them an email about 6 weeks ago and they told me it would be a month before the onboard preamp would be available.

[pickles]

I've been messing with an m5-24 with big singles. Have not taken it out of the house yet, but it's pretty nice. I like the neck pickup solod as a big nasty Pbass type sound but with such a tight low end. Pretty cool. The blended sound is awesome but doesn't have a lot of use in the music play.

It's still undeniably one of the great 5 string basses.

I like it best with sadowsky black steels so far.

[Ivan M]

This just went up, pretty cool little riff, my next bass will be a PJ configuration.
Enjoy the SADOWSKY Growl.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tuV0...eature=g-all-f

[flewis]

Cool riff and a cool video!