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12-13-2012, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug Parent Thats great. Mind if I ask what is different between the two, and what kind of pickups does your Lull have? | My Lull is an M5V with the Seymour Duncan single coil Basslines (custom wound for Lull). With the Aguilar the bass sounded like it had a hole in the mids, with a lot of sparkly highs and washy, not-at-all punchy lows. It worked okay on record but got really muddy on stage (to the point where I simply wouldn't use it live). The Sadowsky pre is like a sumptuous piece of aural chocolate (or think old-fashioned thick and velvety hot chocolate as opposed to the thin, watery variety you get out of a packet). It's rich and full sounding - right across the spectrum. The highs are there but they are beefier and not shrill in the least. The low end is big but it is "contained" and punchy. Great attack. And the sound is just so smooth and pleasing to the ear. It's not grainy but it has balls. Sits perfectly in the mix, too. Installing that pre was the best thing I could have done for that bass!
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12-13-2012, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by akdmx Does anyone know of any good A-B videos with a sadowsky and lakland (like a 55-94?) through the same rig and recording gear? | I remember long before I owned my first Sadowsky watching Chris Chaney with Morrisette on a live TV show here in Spain. He switched between a Lakland and a Sadowsky and it was like night and day...the Sadowsky tone was much fuller, warmer and present through the small TV speakers. | 
12-13-2012, 11:35 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The soggy state of Oregon | | Howdy everyone!
Just popped in to post something in OT, but I wanted to give my best to all the regulars here. The WL is still my #1 bass, and the honeymoon has been going on now for almost three years.  | 
12-13-2012, 12:24 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Diego, Ca. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by bass12 My Lull is an M5V with the Seymour Duncan single coil Basslines (custom wound for Lull). With the Aguilar the bass sounded like it had a hole in the mids, with a lot of sparkly highs and washy, not-at-all punchy lows. It worked okay on record but got really muddy on stage (to the point where I simply wouldn't use it live). The Sadowsky pre is like a sumptuous piece of aural chocolate (or think old-fashioned thick and velvety hot chocolate as opposed to the thin, watery variety you get out of a packet). It's rich and full sounding - right across the spectrum. The highs are there but they are beefier and not shrill in the least. The low end is big but it is "contained" and punchy. Great attack. And the sound is just so smooth and pleasing to the ear. It's not grainy but it has balls. Sits perfectly in the mix, too. Installing that pre was the best thing I could have done for that bass! | I had the same bass except it had a Bart Pre-amp. Nothing against Mikes choice of pickups, but I think switching those out to either Sadowsky singles or Nordstrand would give you even more definition than what you are currently enjoying. Congrats. | 
12-13-2012, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug Parent I had the same bass except it had a Bart Pre-amp. Nothing against Mikes choice of pickups, but I think switching those out to either Sadowsky singles or Nordstrand would give you even more definition than what you are currently enjoying. Congrats. | Maybe, but I'm really happy with the sound as it is right now. And besides, I have a Sadowsky J on order so I'll have all the angles covered with that.  | 
12-13-2012, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Sadowsky
Plastic. | Thank you Roger. | 
12-13-2012, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bass12 Maybe, but I'm really happy with the sound as it is right now. And besides, I have a Sadowsky J on order so I'll have all the angles covered with that.  | Ah the plot thickens........... | 
12-13-2012, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by akdmx Does anyone know of any good A-B videos with a sadowsky and lakland (like a 55-94?) through the same rig and recording gear? | I've been thinking of re-recording the bass to one of the songs on my band's CD with my Standard 5 just to see the diff. My Lakland us a 55-02, but the sound will be essentially identical. I'm hoping to do it in January sometime, as that's when I transition from full time to 3.5 days a week at the magazine, and I might actually have some time.
The Lakland is more of a sonic chameleon than the Sadowsky is, so it would be hard to do anything *too* definitive, but I can probably get a good impression of the differences going. | 
12-13-2012, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Fran Diaz I remember long before I owned my first Sadowsky watching Chris Chaney with Morrisette on a live TV show here in Spain. He switched between a Lakland and a Sadowsky and it was like night and day...the Sadowsky tone was much fuller, warmer and present through the small TV speakers. | Interesting story about my first Sadowsky purchase ( And I can proudly say I still have the bass ) and Chris Chaney and Mossisette . I first heard a Sadowsky on a cruse ship in 1998 with my wife in Mexico . We were walking around the ship during the day and heard the band practicing in one of the big rooms for that night's show . We sort of just found a open door and went in and listened , they were great , sort of a big band . The bass tone is what drew me in and when they took a break I went to the bass player and asked him what he was playing . He said a Sadowsky , do you play , I said yes and he handed me the bass and said try it out . I started noodling around with it and a couple of the guys in the band came in and we jammed a bit . That was so cool for me and I fell in love with that bass right then , it was a ash maple vintage 5 string. When I got home I sold a dirt bike I had right away to fund a new Sadowsky bass . I wanted to somehow play some more of them but living in California at the time I had no access to any of them . I called Roger and asked him if he knew of any way I could try some in cali . He said let me make a call and call you back . When he called back he said he knew a guy in Hollywood that would be open to me coming to his house and trying some . I think he said he had 10 of them at that time . He picked a few different ones and said come on by . He had a cool pad that was mostly a house studio , I played some basses and we talked allot about bass . I asked him who he played with and he said Morrisette . It was not Chris Chaney but his friend who he hooked up the touring gig with her . Anyway he was a cool guy ( cant remember his name ) and as soon as I got home I ordered my bass , a 5 string ash maple standard 5 carmel burst quilted top 8 LBS beauty , she is a 1999 and is still as sweet as when I got her . Like I said I still have that bass and one of his Ultra vintage P basses , next one day will be a 4 string jazz . Anyway I think this is a cool story and a bit of truth about how cool of a guy Roger is , thanks Mr. Sadowsky
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12-13-2012, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by akdmx Does anyone know of any good A-B videos with a sadowsky and lakland (like a 55-94?) through the same rig and recording gear? | Those are two basses I think every bass player should own at some point in their life. There's no telling which will be better with you band, until you try them. Sound clips in a vacuum, I bet 80% of the time you prefer the 55-94. With a band 80% of the time you'll prefer the sadowsky. They also work best with different amps. | 
12-14-2012, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by pickles Those are two basses I think every bass player should own at some point in their life. There's no telling which will be better with you band, until you try them. Sound clips in a vacuum, I bet 80% of the time you prefer the 55-94. With a band 80% of the time you'll prefer the sadowsky. They also work best with different amps. | I've had a few 55-94's over the years and I'll say that the later versions with the LH-3 pickups and pre-amp IMO crush the Barts.
With the MM pickup in single coil mode it really captures a "jazz" sound with the front pickup.
If Lakland would have had theae pickups when they first came out I think they would have been far more successful.
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12-14-2012, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeBass
I've had a few 55-94's over the years and I'll say that the later versions with the LH-3 pickups and pre-amp IMO crush the Barts.
With the MM pickup in single coil mode it really captures a "jazz" sound with the front pickup.
If Lakland would have had theae pickups when they first came out I think they would have been far more successful. | I actually disagree having spent a lot of time with both in the same bass. The Bart's just need some scoopy EQ applied and they come to life. And with the front coil of the mm blended with the neck on the Bart's sounds awesome, on the LH not so much.
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12-14-2012, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by pickles I actually disagree having spent a lot of time with both in the same bass. The Bart's just need some scoopy EQ applied and they come to life. And with the front coil of the mm blended with the neck on the Bart's sounds awesome, on the LH not so much.
/offtopic | Hey, it's cool. Im sure you've been wrong before just like now.... 
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12-14-2012, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by craigb43 I called Roger and asked him if he knew of any way I could try some in cali . He said let me make a call and call you back . When he called back he said he knew a guy in Hollywood that would be open to me coming to his house and trying some . He had a cool pad that was mostly a house studio , I played some basses and we talked allot about bass . I asked him who he played with and he said Morrisette . It was not Chris Chaney but his friend who he hooked up the touring gig with her . Anyway he was a cool guy ( cant remember his name ) and as soon as I got home I ordered my bass , a 5 string ash maple standard 5 carmel burst quilted top 8 LBS beauty , she is a 1999 and is still as sweet as when I got her . Anyway I think this is a cool story and a bit of truth about how cool of a guy Roger is , thanks Mr. Sadowsky | That was my friend, Kevin Augunas, who owns Fairfax Recording in LA. http://fairfaxrecordings.com https://www.facebook.com/augunas?ref=ts&fref=ts
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12-14-2012, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Sadowsky Here is a sneek peek for Club Sadowsky members. This is our new prewired preamp assembly for retrofitting the Sadowsky Preamp to other instruments. We are working on the packaging now and hope to have it on our Online Store soon.
Includes control plate and knobs. There is also enough wire length between pots to accommodate 4 in line rear mount as well as diamond patterns too.
Installation requires moving the jack to the side and installing a 9V battery holder.  | Will they be offered in black as well?
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12-14-2012, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MAJOR METAL Will they be offered in black as well? | Hi Major,
Last I looked, I did not see too many J-style basses with black hardware and control plates.  You can always transfer the assembly to your original plate.
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12-14-2012, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Sadowsky | Ahh that is correct , thanks again Roger , he is a very nice guy . | 
12-14-2012, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Sadowsky Last I looked, I did not see too many J-style basses with black hardware and control plates.
Roger | Here you go, Roger...  | 
12-14-2012, 04:26 PM
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None more black :-) | 
12-14-2012, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CTC564
None more black :-) | It could...... if it had a Black Badass Bridge, Black Machine Heads and a Black String Tree!
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