Club Sadowsky (Part 31) - Page 43

Joeykun · #**841** 12-26-2012, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TXLawDawg

The consensus I found was that there seems to be a more discernible difference in HC vs SC when your talking about a 5 string rather than the 4 string versions.

This ^^^

bikeplate · #**842** 12-26-2012, 09:10 PM

Hi

I like single coils no matter how many strings. Suit my playing style and have a nice edge sound wise. Hc's are cool but are just a bit too clean sounding

Rob

MikeBass · #**843** 12-26-2012, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bikeplate

Hi

I like single coils no matter how many strings. Suit my playing style and have a nice edge sound wise. Hc's are cool but are just a bit too clean sounding

Rob

I'm gonna get railed for this, but I love EMGs with Rogers pre.
I was actually just for grins gonna try a set in my WL.

Go ahead, lemme have it!

bucephylus · #**844** 12-26-2012, 10:52 PM

Really depends on what you are looking for.

IME, SC's give more of the Fender clank and better harmonics. They sound a little more raw. All of which can be very cool. They also will pickup up lighting related EMFs when unbalanced. Which can be a pain.

The HC's are super smooth and just fit so well into the mix. They are safe in all lighting situations without giving up much tone at all.

Both have their advantages. Neither will make the bass something it isn't. The preamp, a constant, is key. That bass should be just perfectly sweet in any mix. GL. I would gig the heck out of that thing.

mozilla314 · #**845** 12-26-2012, 11:45 PM

Sadowsky soapbars are the wave of the future! IMO.

**Chef** · #**846** 12-26-2012, 11:53 PM

IIRC, Sadowsky used EMGs early on...

I could be wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeBass

I'm gonna get railed for this, but I love EMGs with Rogers pre.
I was actually just for grins gonna try a set in my WL.

Go ahead, lemme have it!

barks · #**847** 12-27-2012, 04:20 AM

I have HCs in my ash / brazilian rosewood RV4. I think I'm going to keep them in as I often use that bass with the neck pickup favoured for a P bass vibe (and I currently have TI flats on it) and I avoid any hum with the HCs.
My favourite Sadowsky is my MV4 ash / maple and in that one I love the SCs and the 70s pickup placement. Since I bought this one almost a year ago I have barely touched another bass. It can do everything for me.

Joeykun · #**848** 12-27-2012, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by barks

I have HCs in my ash / brazilian rosewood RV4. I think I'm going to keep them in as I often use that bass with the neck pickup favoured for a P bass vibe (and I currently have TI flats on it) and I avoid any hum with the HCs.
My favourite Sadowsky is my MV4 ash / maple and in that one I love the SCs and the 70s pickup placement. Since I bought this one almost a year ago I have barely touched another bass. It can do everything for me.

MVs have 60s pickup placement.
UVs have the 70s placement.
Unless its a NYC ordered that way.

barks · #**849** 12-27-2012, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Joeykun

MVs have 60s pickup placement.
UVs have the 70s placement.
Unless its a NYC ordered that way.

True - I ordered mine with 70s placement so it's kind of like a UV70 but with the smaller size chambered body. Black blocks but no binding.
Turned out great!

**MAJOR METAL** · #**850** 12-27-2012, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mozilla314

Sadowsky soapbars are the wave of the future! IMO.

One of my all time favorite pickups

Famous Shamus · #**851** 12-27-2012, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeBass

I'm gonna get railed for this, but I love EMGs with Rogers pre.
I was actually just for grins gonna try a set in my WL.

Go ahead, lemme have it!

Ok Mike I'll let you you have it!

J/K

I am intrigued about what that might sound like

having used EMG's in my Spector's and in some builds, I can probably guess the sound is completely different from the passive HC's /SC's

does it completely lose that "Sadowsky sound"?

do you have any sound clips?

Sadowsky · #**852** 12-27-2012, 08:45 AM

I used EMG's quite a bit in the 80's and 90's. They sound great and work great with the Sadowsky pre. Rob Turner is a good friend and produces some wonderful stuff. I stopped using them primarily because I wanted a complete active/passive option for my basses.

Roger

roadkill2309 · #**853** 12-27-2012, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sadowsky

I used EMG's quite a bit in the 80's and 90's. They sound great and work great with the Sadowsky pre. Rob Turner is a good friend and produces some wonderful stuff. I stopped using them primarily because I wanted a complete active/passive option for my basses.

Roger

With EMGs, the pups themselves are active, no? Does that change the wiring of the pre in any way, or is there a power line from each pickup directly to the battery compartment?

Vic · #**854** 12-27-2012, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by roadkill2309

With EMGs, the pups themselves are active, no? Does that change the wiring of the pre in any way, or is there a power line from each pickup directly to the battery compartment?

Yes, the pickups are active. No, it doesn't affect the preamp wiring, but yes, battery leads go to the pickups as well as the preamp, so the pickups are always active no matter what's going on with the preamp wiring, and if the battery dies, the pickups do too, so there is no "fully" passive mode... you have to have a good battery in the bass for it to operate (per Roger's point).

While we're on the subject, just a reminder in case some might not know or recall...

Also, unless Roger's preamp is done differently, just keep in mind that even in "passive mode", the battery power is being used by the preamp... it's just that the active circuit is not in the signal path. So with passive pickups, you don't need the battery to operate, but, if the battery is present and the bass is plugged in, power is still being fed to the preamp, and being used (albeit very lightly).

Sadowsky · #**855** 12-27-2012, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by roadkill2309

With EMGs, the pups themselves are active, no? Does that change the wiring of the pre in any way, or is there a power line from each pickup directly to the battery compartment?

Each EMG pickup has it's own battery wire. Both the pickups and the preamp work off the same battery.

However, the volume control should be changed to a 25KA pot, which is supplied with the EMG pickups.

Roger

Dinosaur Punk · #**856** 12-27-2012, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Vic

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While we're on the subject, just a reminder in case some might not know or recall...

Also, unless Roger's preamp is done differently, just keep in mind that even in "passive mode", the battery power is being used by the preamp... it's just that the active circuit is not in the signal path. So with passive pickups, you don't need the battery to operate, but, if the battery is present and the bass is plugged in, power is still being fed to the preamp, and being used (albeit very lightly).

Interesting. I did not know that, but it makes sense. Thanks.

ezrs · #**857** 12-27-2012, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ezrs

Hi all,
I am joining the club, ahead of schedule! Found a beautiful looking NYC J from 2000 for a great price, I'll get it in the post next week.
A question for those who have played basses pre and post modern enhancements of the early 2000s (chambered body, graphite reenforcement). Should I be expecting a bass of the same quality if it does not have those features? I ask only out of sheer ignorance, and am very much looking forward to adding a sadowsky to my collection!!
Thanks!

Folks, please help out a new owner! Wondering what I should expect from my new/old bass. Thanks!

NOLA Bass · #**858** 12-27-2012, 07:23 PM

Hmm, this talk if the Sad preamp working great with EMG's has me intrigued to try one in one of my Spectors.

Fran Diaz · #**859** 12-28-2012, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ezrs

Folks, please help out a new owner! Wondering what I should expect from my new/old bass. Thanks!

You should expect a great instrument

No kidding now,

Roger has always built his instruments to the highest standards so even if your bass is older and lacks the minor improvements that Roger has implemented on his basses over the years, you are going to get a bass with excellent wood and electronics, amazing built quality and great playability (you might need a setup, but even that is easy with a Sadowsky).

Let us know what you think when you get it.

roadkill2309 · #**860** 12-28-2012, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Vic

Yes, the pickups are active. No, it doesn't affect the preamp wiring, but yes, battery leads go to the pickups as well as the preamp, so the pickups are always active no matter what's going on with the preamp wiring, and if the battery dies, the pickups do too, so there is no "fully" passive mode... you have to have a good battery in the bass for it to operate (per Roger's point).

While we're on the subject, just a reminder in case some might not know or recall...

Also, unless Roger's preamp is done differently, just keep in mind that even in "passive mode", the battery power is being used by the preamp... it's just that the active circuit is not in the signal path. So with passive pickups, you don't need the battery to operate, but, if the battery is present and the bass is plugged in, power is still being fed to the preamp, and being used (albeit very lightly).

I always unplug during set breaks. It's a habit I picked up when my Lakland was my main gigging bass. I never could figure out why switching to passive doesn't bypass the pre completely...