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Scatterblak 03-05-2013 07:51 AM

Craigslist - 1965 CAR P - Too good to be true?
 
http://nashville.craigslist.org/msg/3493927173.html

This looks awfully nice - I'm sure there are some great old P's floating around out there (Nashville flood jokes notwithstanding), but this one looks a little shinier than I'd expect for am instrument that's almost 50 years old.

Take a look and let me know what you experts think? :)

--S

smcd 03-05-2013 08:05 AM

I'll never stop being amazed that people will throw an ad on CL featuring 2 sloppy photos with an $8grand plus asking price.

Wallace320 03-05-2013 08:40 AM

Too good to be true
 
It shines much like my 4 year old lava red Yamaha Attitude Limited II

I never knew of a such brilliant (almost metallic) color back in the mid '60s

Secondly, a such brilliant (and still metallic to date) color from the mid '60s

Too good to be true

Cheers,
Wallace

Gord_oh 03-05-2013 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smcd (Post 13979270)
I'll never stop being amazed that people will throw an ad on CL featuring 2 sloppy photos with an $8grand plus asking price.

same with ebay

nukes_da_bass 03-05-2013 09:02 AM

I'd bet a Benjamin that's a refin. I'm no vintage Fender expert but like someone said, the color is dead wrong for that era to my eye.

jajafofo 03-05-2013 09:54 AM

Too glossy, so it could be a refin. But I also don't believe that an original 65 Fender P would have the engraved Fender "F" on the neck plate..

groooooove 03-05-2013 09:56 AM

looks like a modern bass, not a refin, to me.

P. Aaron 03-05-2013 10:13 AM

How about the new basses Fender's making these days!

They're a great value with vibe and tone & build quality wouldn't you say?

Lublin 03-05-2013 10:16 AM

Looks like a refin. I believe I see the 60's Fender router hump on the bottom horn. Sweet bass, but not for that money.

Edit: Actually, I take it back. That could very well be an original finish if it really wasn't played. Although the guard should be yellowed a bit more than it is.

BawanaRik 03-05-2013 10:20 AM

Like it's been mentioned it's hard to tell form two itty bitty pics. I recall one individual seeing a Jag in CAR at the NY Guitar show. It looked new. The CAR is a more robust finish that the Sunburst or some of the others. Hit the bank, take your dough and take a look. I would try to find someone how really knows to bring along. After all you're in Nashville. I would even ask George Gruhan what he would charge to vette this bass.

Good luck.

audioglenn 03-05-2013 10:23 AM

Be careful! I have a Squire Affinity P bass that exact color.

BawanaRik 03-05-2013 10:24 AM

I wouldn't do a deal of this magnitude without being there. I realize I'm old school but 8 K is a lot to me.

Remember people used to work a year to make that kind of money.


Quote:

Originally Posted by smcd (Post 13979270)
I'll never stop being amazed that people will throw an ad on CL featuring 2 sloppy photos with an $8grand plus asking price.


Templar 03-05-2013 01:46 PM

Actually that's what a typical CAR P bass of that era would look like (gold undercoat), and it was a popular color then.

Whether it's a refin or a closet classic remains to be seen. In person. By an expert.

As it's a '65, you'd be deducting some points for the "F" plate. L-series 65's are worth more. Sounds silly but that's just the way the game has always been played. The value is in the collectability factor, after all.

Caca de Kick 03-05-2013 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Templar;
As it's a '65, you'd be deducting some points for the "F" plate. L-series 65's are worth more. Sounds silly but that's just the way the game has always been played.

The technicallity here is '65 wouldn't have an F plate, but most of '66 does have the F plate.
So this at least tells us this bass is a 1966, but really doesn't make a difference on the value.

FrenchBassQC 03-05-2013 02:23 PM

Based on the link below of a 1965 P bass you could see it had the F logo neck plate. But again, that could be wrong.

http://reverb.com/item/537-fender-pr...-sunburst-1965

the art guy 03-05-2013 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Templar (Post 13981257)
Actually that's what a typical CAR P bass of that era would look like (gold undercoat), and it was a popular color then.

Whether it's a refin or a closet classic remains to be seen. In person. By an expert.

As it's a '65, you'd be deducting some points for the "F" plate. L-series 65's are worth more. Sounds silly but that's just the way the game has always been played. The value is in the collectability factor, after all.

This, this and this.

tomshepp 03-05-2013 02:37 PM

Quote:

Whether it's a refin or a closet classic remains to be seen. In person. By an expert.
This, is what matters here. No one can determine the authenticity or originality of the bass from the photos in the add.

If the bass is legit, then the asking price is (I think) in line with what a custom color bass in that condition would go for. Well, maybe a little high as it's really post CBS. But still, just an asking price. The selling price could be much lower.

tomshepp 03-05-2013 02:39 PM

Sorry!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the art guy (Post 13981497)
This, this and this.

Sorry, I just realized I was being redundant.:rollno:

mjac28 03-05-2013 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smcd (Post 13979270)
I'll never stop being amazed that people will throw an ad on CL featuring 2 sloppy photos with an $8grand plus asking price.

+1 It looks too clean to be almost fifty years old?

RedMoses 03-05-2013 02:47 PM

What jumps out at me is the position Dots on the fretboard, back in the day they were a dull creme color, later on they started using a Pearlish material that was much brighter. All the Early and Pre CBS Fenders i have come accross all had those unique position markers.


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