Craigslist - 1965 CAR P - Too good to be true?

[Scatterblak]

http://nashville.craigslist.org/msg/3493927173.html

This looks awfully nice - I'm sure there are some great old P's floating around out there (Nashville flood jokes notwithstanding), but this one looks a little shinier than I'd expect for am instrument that's almost 50 years old.

Take a look and let me know what you experts think?

--S

[smcd]

I'll never stop being amazed that people will throw an ad on CL featuring 2 sloppy photos with an $8grand plus asking price.

[Wallace320]

It shines much like my 4 year old lava red Yamaha Attitude Limited II

I never knew of a such brilliant (almost metallic) color back in the mid '60s

Secondly, a such brilliant (and still metallic to date) color from the mid '60s

Too good to be true

Cheers,
Wallace

[Gord_oh]

Originally Posted by smcd

I'll never stop being amazed that people will throw an ad on CL featuring 2 sloppy photos with an $8grand plus asking price.

same with ebay

[nukes_da_bass]

I'd bet a Benjamin that's a refin. I'm no vintage Fender expert but like someone said, the color is dead wrong for that era to my eye.

[jajafofo]

Too glossy, so it could be a refin. But I also don't believe that an original 65 Fender P would have the engraved Fender "F" on the neck plate..

[groooooove]

looks like a modern bass, not a refin, to me.

[P. Aaron]

How about the new basses Fender's making these days!

They're a great value with vibe and tone & build quality wouldn't you say?

[Lublin]

Looks like a refin. I believe I see the 60's Fender router hump on the bottom horn. Sweet bass, but not for that money.

Edit: Actually, I take it back. That could very well be an original finish if it really wasn't played. Although the guard should be yellowed a bit more than it is.

[BawanaRik]

Like it's been mentioned it's hard to tell form two itty bitty pics. I recall one individual seeing a Jag in CAR at the NY Guitar show. It looked new. The CAR is a more robust finish that the Sunburst or some of the others. Hit the bank, take your dough and take a look. I would try to find someone how really knows to bring along. After all you're in Nashville. I would even ask George Gruhan what he would charge to vette this bass.

Good luck.

[audioglenn]

Be careful! I have a Squire Affinity P bass that exact color.

[BawanaRik]

I wouldn't do a deal of this magnitude without being there. I realize I'm old school but 8 K is a lot to me.

Remember people used to work a year to make that kind of money.

Originally Posted by smcd

I'll never stop being amazed that people will throw an ad on CL featuring 2 sloppy photos with an $8grand plus asking price.

[Templar]

Actually that's what a typical CAR P bass of that era would look like (gold undercoat), and it was a popular color then.

Whether it's a refin or a closet classic remains to be seen. In person. By an expert.

As it's a '65, you'd be deducting some points for the "F" plate. L-series 65's are worth more. Sounds silly but that's just the way the game has always been played. The value is in the collectability factor, after all.

[Caca de Kick]

Originally Posted by Templar;

As it's a '65, you'd be deducting some points for the "F" plate. L-series 65's are worth more. Sounds silly but that's just the way the game has always been played.

The technicallity here is '65 wouldn't have an F plate, but most of '66 does have the F plate.
So this at least tells us this bass is a 1966, but really doesn't make a difference on the value.

[FrenchBassQC]

Based on the link below of a 1965 P bass you could see it had the F logo neck plate. But again, that could be wrong.

http://reverb.com/item/537-fender-pr...-sunburst-1965

[the art guy]

Originally Posted by Templar

Actually that's what a typical CAR P bass of that era would look like (gold undercoat), and it was a popular color then.

Whether it's a refin or a closet classic remains to be seen. In person. By an expert.

As it's a '65, you'd be deducting some points for the "F" plate. L-series 65's are worth more. Sounds silly but that's just the way the game has always been played. The value is in the collectability factor, after all.

This, this and this.

[tomshepp]

Whether it's a refin or a closet classic remains to be seen. In person. By an expert.

This, is what matters here. No one can determine the authenticity or originality of the bass from the photos in the add.

If the bass is legit, then the asking price is (I think) in line with what a custom color bass in that condition would go for. Well, maybe a little high as it's really post CBS. But still, just an asking price. The selling price could be much lower.

[tomshepp]

Originally Posted by the art guy

This, this and this.

Sorry, I just realized I was being redundant.

[mjac28]

Originally Posted by smcd

I'll never stop being amazed that people will throw an ad on CL featuring 2 sloppy photos with an $8grand plus asking price.

+1 It looks too clean to be almost fifty years old?

[RedMoses]

What jumps out at me is the position Dots on the fretboard, back in the day they were a dull creme color, later on they started using a Pearlish material that was much brighter. All the Early and Pre CBS Fenders i have come accross all had those unique position markers.