ESP / LTD VINTAGE-214 Fretless: Any Reviews?
The ESP/LTD VINTAGE-214 fretless has caught my eye and wonder if anyone would offer up a review? My questions are:
1) Are the neck edge dots (for every note) a sufficient replacement for finger board lines? I think it LOOKS better without them, but wonder if it's harder to play as a result.
2) Are the neck edge dots where they would be on a fretted neck i.e. behind the fret or are they where the fret would be? Easy way to check: tune the open string and use a tuner to see of you're sharp/flat when the string is depressed right at the edge dot.
3) How's the sound? I have an LTD B-4B that is great.
4) Does it ship with flats?
Thanks in advance for any input on this!!
I had one and it was excellent. If I wasn't a failure at fretless, I woulda kept it. The side dots at every position were a pain. The guy I sold it to whited out the 2nd, 4th, 6th dot and so on. The dots were where the fret lines would be. Like any lined fretless, you're meant to play on the line, not before as if there was a fret there (i think that's generally the case). They ship with cleartone coated rounds. Great bass. The stock pups were powerful and clean.
Hi, and thanks for replying. Instead of blacking out the additional dots, what do you think of emphasizing in some way the usual dots at 3,5, 7, 9, 12 etc? Whether adding a dot at those points or a different color dot? I noticed in pictures there's no distinction at the "usual" dot positions and I'd think it'd be easy to get lost with so many identical ones.
I've tried playing fretless in stores and found the lines helpful. But I think this bass looks better without them and it seems to me having an edge dot for each note would be very useful - but there's no substitute for hands-on experience, hence my posting.
Thanks again for your feedback on this intriguing bass.
Limited Review LTD Vintage-214 Fretless
In case anyone else is intrigued by this bass and can't find it locally, I drove the 75 miles to check it out at Music Go Round:
- The neck edge dots are where the frets WOULD be i.e. press the string at the dot. This is helpful IMHO bcs the finger board is unlined. When I look as I play I look at the neck edge, not the fingerboard much.
- A Fender Jazz fretless Made In Mexico (MIM) has a lined finger board and the edge dots are behind the dots i.e. where they are on a fretted bass. This confuses my eye. As I play my fretted bass (LTD B-4B, a GREAT neck thru, string thru body with great sound) my eye tends to lock on the dots - which is fine with frets. But with this dot arrangement I have to spot the dot and mentally adjust to press down at the line instead.
- A Fender Jazz fretless MIJapan has a lined finger board and has the edge dots at the fret lines. Personally, I like this better.
- The LTD is unlined with edge dots at every note as a substitute for the lines. I like this BUT all the dots are the same! Even the 12th fret dot is the same. I got lost in a sea of dots and couldn't find the fret/note I wanted. A user on TB darkened the "extra" dots with a Sharpie as a solution. This leaves no guide to help find the desired note for the then unmarked "frets". At the store, I placed a small bit of tape at "fret" 3, 5, 7, 9, 12 which REALLY made a difference. It was much easier to find my note. If I bought this bass, I'd accentuate those note dots and leave the others alone. I'd also put flat wounds on it.
- SOUND: I thought the sound from the LTD was louder, richer, fuller with greater range than either of the 2 Fender Jazz fretless I compared it too. The store guy said that's due to the P bass type pup at the neck. I'm not familiar enough with the P vs J sound to know.
CONCLUSION: If you're looking for a fretless, this bass is definitely worth taking a look at. If you look at the finger board itself while playing, you may prefer a lined fretless. IMHO the unlined looks better. I just wish ESP / LTD had done a better job with the neck edge dots.
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