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12-28-2012, 04:30 PM
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Endorsing Artist for: Dean Guitars, Brace Audio; Duncan Pickups; Line6 | | Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Florida | | | Play them BOTH 1st before you make any decision.....YOU have to play what feels good first. You can always swap pickups and any minor hardware to get that sound you want.
Oh and play more than one model of them....you get one that is great and another plays like garbage. QC is not always the same on lower end basses.
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12-28-2012, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by stepswork4me  My point is that I disagree with you. I don't believe that they're consistanly quality. I believe that the name sells more than you think. Just my take. | So basically you're judging all the other Squiers based on your one bad experience. Explain how that is even remotely fair. Forgive me if I rely on not only my own experience, but the very positive experiences of the literally hundreds (and likely more) that I've read about here and other places. Your one experience is not any kind of indicator of anything other than your own bad luck.
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12-28-2012, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by C.Linton So basically you're judging all the other Squiers based on your one bad experience. Explain how that is even remotely fair. Forgive me if I rely on not only my own experience, but the very positive experiences of the literally hundreds (and likely more) that I've read about here and other places. Your one experience is not any kind of indicator of anything other than your own bad luck. | I'm not saying that all of them are bad. Not my words. I'm saying that ltd has better quality and is more consistant. I'm saying that mine is junk. I'm saying that some of the others that I've played were junk. Hell, even Fender is known for inconsistancy. When a company sells that many instruments, they're gonna be hit and miss to keep profits up.
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12-28-2012, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by stepswork4me Mine is junk. | .. FWIW, I would also be interested to know what model of 'Squirererer' it is ... I certainly dont/wont dispute that you obviously dont care for it, but since it is a contradictory opinion to what I have found after owning literally dozens of Squiers, I am just curious ...
... recognizing the limitations and the 'bang for the buck' opinions generously offered on the current Squier lines, if anything I have noticed them to be extremely consistent in terms of quality, sound, and fit in finish within each model line ... are they the end all/be all that some elude to, certainly not to everyone ... but I am yet to see/own/play one that I would classify as 'junk' ... so perhaps if you were to expound a bit on what/why it is that you do not care for it, it would be a bit more enlightening than just calling it 'junk' ..
... with that said, that LTD looks interesting, I have NO experience with it, but it reminds me of a Peavey (Milestone maybe?) that I had many years ago when I picked the bass back up after a long hiatus ... nice little bass ... especially for the $100 I paid for it, and it served it purpose well at the time, although some might call it 'junk' too, it did its job ... JMHO's of course |
12-28-2012, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by tjh .. FWIW, I would also be interested to know what model of 'Squirererer' it is ... I certainly dont/wont dispute that you obviously dont care for it, but since it is a contradictory opinion to what I have found after owning literally dozens of Squiers, I am just curious ...
... recognizing the limitations and the 'bang for the buck' opinions generously offered on the current Squier lines, if anything I have noticed them to be extremely consistent in terms of quality, sound, and fit in finish within each model line ... are they the end all/be all that some elude to, certainly not to everyone ... but I am yet to see/own/play one that I would classify as 'junk' ... so perhaps if you were to expound a bit on what/why it is that you do not care for it, it would be a bit more enlightening than just calling it 'junk' ..
... with that said, that LTD looks interesting, I have NO experience with it, but it reminds me of a Peavey (Milestone maybe?) that I had many years ago when I picked the bass back up after a long hiatus ... nice little bass ... especially for the $100 I paid for it, and it served it purpose well at the time, although some might call it 'junk' too, it did its job ... JMHO's of course | It's an Indonesian Affinity P. The pups are mirophonic and it seriously lacks low end. It will not do a low setup. It won't even do a medium setup. The neck needs shimmed. The nut was slotted too deeply. It looks, feels, and sounds cheap. But that's what it is... a cheap bass.
PS... The fret work is way less than desireable. Tangs will cut ya if you're not carefull.
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12-28-2012, 06:28 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Pittsburgh, PA | | My wife just bought me a LTD for Christmas from Hello Music for $198.00... It's a pretty decent bass...
It's a Vintage 204, and it's "relic'd", so...
Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=aGcZNsES-MU
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12-28-2012, 06:33 PM
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12-28-2012, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by stepswork4me It's an Indonesian Affinity P. | What a surprise  it's hardly a fair comparison, the VM range is much better than the Affinity Quote:
Originally Posted by GhettoSmurf187 Definitely the LTD. I've never heard anything good about that Squier. | Really? there's loads of happy owners on here.
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12-28-2012, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by stepswork4me
Mine is junk.
| Why did you buy it, then?
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12-28-2012, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by stepswork4me
It's an Indonesian Affinity P. The pups are mirophonic and it seriously lacks low end. It will not do a low setup. It won't even do a medium setup. The neck needs shimmed. The nut was slotted too deeply. It looks, feels, and sounds cheap. But that's what it is... a cheap bass.
PS... The fret work is way less than desireable. Tangs will cut ya if you're not carefull.
| Ah, the Affinity series. Some are ok, most are meh, but here we were talking about the VM series... entirely different!!! The VMs are pretty good and the CV even more so.
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12-28-2012, 06:54 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Buckley AFB, CO. | | | My only two basses are a Squier VN Jazz and ESP LTD B-105 -- love them both.
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12-28-2012, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mcnach Why did you buy it, then? | I would never do such a thing. It was given to me and I accepted it graciously. With that said, I wouldn't buy anything from the standard Fender lines. They just don't suit my needs... spacing at the bridge, pups, number of frets. Just not my type of bass. It's fine that others dig them, though. Just not for me.
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12-28-2012, 07:53 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Modesto, CA | | IMO.....the LTD is ugly. 
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12-28-2012, 08:03 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Stow, Oh | | | I have both, LTD is much better. Sorry Squier crowd.
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12-28-2012, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by etechstan I have both, LTD is much better. Sorry Squier crowd. | You spelling Squier correctly validates your post. I believe you. 
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12-28-2012, 08:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: NW New Jersey | | | I didn't like any of the Squiers I've played, all of which were VM series. I did, however, just choose to purchase an ESP LTD B-206 over Spector Legends, MTD Kingston Z6, and Ibanez BTBs. I played 4 different LTDs and each one felt better than the other brands.
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12-28-2012, 08:45 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Central Valley | | | having played both...i would lean towards the LTD...it simply felt more comfortable and sounded better to my ears through the same amp...the bridge on the LTD is somewhat more substantial as well providing a bit more sustain than the Squier
however that said...that is my experience...yours may be different...the reason so many different brands exist? Simple different strokes for different folks
Whenever i go to buy a new bass the first thing i do is simply hold it and then slowly begin to play different runs all over the neck as well as on every string...if it FEELS good to me i plug it in and run it through it's paces...if it SOUNDS the very LAST thing i do is judge the aesthetics...
but that's me...
And for what it is worth I currently own two LTD's and no Fender/Squier products (though i had a VM Jazz for a short period of time...)
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12-28-2012, 09:35 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Northern Wisconsin | | | I cant actually believe this is being debated!!! The LTD is a far superior instrument to the Squier by every measure. Not even a fair fight.
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12-28-2012, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by richntiff I cant actually believe this is being debated!!! The LTD is a far superior instrument to the Squier by every measure. Not even a fair fight. | I'll weigh in...even though I've never played an LTD myself, I have heard many people say that the LTD just kills. FWIW.
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12-28-2012, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by richntiff I cant actually believe this is being debated!!! The LTD is a far superior instrument to the Squier by every measure. Not even a fair fight. | I hate to say this, as it should be obvious. That's your opinion.
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