Feeding inner metal child

[puchongbala]

This is purely a GAS thread.

In an attempt to feed me inner heavy metal child, me is thinking of getting either an Ibanez ICB200ex or the Warlock.

But this is purely to satisfy them deep metal urges.

Will be used fer home practice & jamming (posing?) with mates. No gigging.

Feedback appreciated.

ps: No need fer any 'save up fer a better bass' responses as me is working towards a Bongo4 as well. But that's fer the future. This is fer the here & now !!!

[denchiq]

if you're after the shape, get a shape bass, case closed

on the other hand, i have a metal child inside, have played power/groove metal, death metal, grindcore, have a growing MDM project lurking, owned a warlock II, a mockingbird (bass and guitar) and came to the conclusion the best way is to get an instrument that does it no matter what the stage is. my current choice is the 55-94 (for active), 55 PJ (for passive) and a japanese jackson soloist lawsuit copy (for guitar). just so that they freaking sound. neither is pointy. except for the soloist's headstock, that is.

[garmenteros]

Do yourself a favor and get a jackson. They sound good and look much more metal to me than bc richs. Bc richs look kind of ridiculous in my opinion almost a parody of metal.

If you are saving for a bongo you could kill two birds with one stone and get a stealth. Those are sexy basses and black goes with everything ahhaahah...

[puchongbala]

thanks fer the feedback.

Anyone played the ICB & Warlock? How do they compare?

Is the Chinese made Warlock as bad as a few here seem to suggest?

[darkstorm]

Which warlock bass? While ok with a preamp added, the warlock1 is a bit basic and yes its been available in both widow and inline pointy headstock. The revenge is ok to, though its humbucker pup could be better. The Paulo spalted maple, mahogany body nat finish boltm on is very nice. Its bdsm humbuckers are sweet warm things with lotsa output and great articulation. The neck thru paulo comes with emg active humbuckers and passive tone. The current standard nt warlock bass is also emg humbuckers & 2band active eq, but maybe a bit overly glittery with the body binding etc. Of the lot, I like the new paulo's best. Ibanez is good bass to. But Id take the paulo bolt on or neck thru over it myself.

The new jackson basses starting at around $350 arent due for release untill October last I saw. But they would be nice to check out if your willing to wait. BC Rich's and Jacksons where among the most used basses guitars in the 80's for death, black, thrash etc of course. Warlocks been my fave shape since the late 70's.

[lowfreq33]

I never liked warlocks until I recently saw the white non beveled version with black binding... Something about it just looks... Classy?

[superbassman2000]

my inner metal child tells me to buy a bc rich mockingbird every day!

[majortoby]

I think a bass composed entirely of one solid mass of carbon fiber would be absolutely spectacular for metal

[puchongbala]

errm, sorry, there doesn't seem to be a distributor fer Jacksons in Malaysia.

The BCRich I am referring to is the Chinese made Warlock I. However, have read that neck dive, overall weight & poor construction are issues (as claimed by some in the other thread).

How does it stack up against the ICB200ex in terms of playability & sound?

And yes, am going to check out hte Paolo G models as well.

Thank fer feedback. Keep it coming!

[Thrill-House]

Originally Posted by lowfreq33

I never liked warlocks until I recently saw the white non beveled version with black binding... Something about it just looks... Classy?

Are you referring to the Paolo Gregoletto sig. warlock? If so i agree, its still got the wierd shape, but the finish gives it a nice look. Kind of want one now...

[SwagAttack]

I would go for the BC Rich Eagle. I like the body shape, and you could gig wit it too. If you can find the older ones with knobs and crazy switches, I would do it. Super classy.

[denchiq]

Originally Posted by puchongbala

errm, sorry, there doesn't seem to be a distributor fer Jacksons in Malaysia.

The BCRich I am referring to is the Chinese made Warlock I. However, have read that neck dive, overall weight & poor construction are issues (as claimed by some in the other thread).

How does it stack up against the ICB200ex in terms of playability & sound?

And yes, am going to check out hte Paolo G models as well.

Thank fer feedback. Keep it coming!

jackson is indeed an option. I used to have a 1995 korean performer - one good bass it was, although pickups mediocre. Megadeth all the way, ha! Сurrent indian and chinese production jackson are not any close in terms of construction. My guitarist also had a korean kelly at the time and now owns a music instrumnets shop. Current Performers, JS series cannot even compare (both our instruments are still life and limb so we actually A/B'ed them with the new ones).

being in Malaysia, you should have no prob buying used off a japanese auction. In Russia, with all shipment, handling and customs clearing involved, not to say about three times the distance, you can get a classy one for $400-$600 shipped

warlocks, mockingbirds and (I think) icemen all have neckdive issue. I only played an iceman guitar so I couldn't really tell. But logic tells me, due to the placement of the forward strap pin, iceman bass will have it as well
also on Warlock, due to the cleavage in the back part of the body, the bridge is forwarded, and you have to stretch your arm and wrist for the first frets.

[Sartori]

I must be an odd metalhead... as I prefer Ric and Peavey for metal.

Jackson guitars are cool... but the concert bass is a little blah for me.

With BC Rich, I'd get either a white warlock or something that's not a warlock.

IMO the MM Bongo can be pretty metal.

[puchongbala]

Originally Posted by Sartori

IMO the MM Bongo can be pretty metal.

Yes, but that's one fer the future as I save up fer it.

The warlock or ICB is fer instant (& probably short term) gratification.

[denchiq]

really then, get a Squier Classic Vibe or Vintage Modified P. It will play 'for now' role and possibly will stay with you for good. Loads of metal are recorded and played with a P, Ozzy and Iron Maiden being on top of my mind.

[calypsocoral302]

Originally Posted by puchongbala

This is purely a GAS thread.

In an attempt to feed me inner heavy metal child, me is thinking of getting either an Ibanez ICB200ex or the Warlock.

But this is purely to satisfy them deep metal urges.

Will be used fer home practice & jamming (posing?) with mates. No gigging.

Feedback appreciated.

The correct answer is ESP F-401. Neck-thru, Mahogany and Flamed Maple, 35" scale (drop-tune-friendly, IME), and active EMG's. Doesn't get much more "metal" than that. Just ask Tom Araya.

[MOTORHEADBANGER]

Originally Posted by garmenteros

Do yourself a favor and get a jackson. They sound good and look much more metal to me than bc richs. Bc richs look kind of ridiculous in my opinion almost a parody of metal.

This. Jackson has really been stepping it up with their newer models. The ones about to come out really look killer. I saw David Ellefson (Megadeth) at Sweetwater, and the tone from his was just killer. With the EMG's and 3 band eq it had a very crisp bite and growled like crazy. He was just playing straight into a Hartke LH1000 so it was definitely the uncolored sound of the bass.

[Mooch]

May I throw my 7 1/2 cents out there? How about a Traben? They have 2 "looks" so to say. The Pheonix, Array, Neo have the big chrome tribal bridges. The Chaos series still has the look, but the "bigger" bridge is internal.

I own both I have the low end 4-string Array which is my main gig bass(Heavy Modern Metal Band), With that I have an older discontinued Chaos(looks like a pheonix) fretless 4-string, also another discontinued Chaos Obsession 5 NT. All have great tone, electronics, looks and blah blah blah.

They Have treble, mid, bass and pickup blend controls. So you have plenty of ways to go as far as dialing in your sound. They are active basses as well. They can be had from as low as 350 bucks to 800ish bucks. If you are really digging BC Rich they also just rebranded a Traben sig model. John Moyer Havoc was the Traben model, the BC Rich is the same but with a BC Rich name on the headstock.

[brendanbassist]

A lot of the "weird" body shapes are uncomfortable to play sitting down, and/or have balance poorly on a strap. I'd make sure to play one in person before you shell out the cash.

[denchiq]

Originally Posted by calypsocoral302

The correct answer is ESP F-401. Neck-thru, Mahogany and Flamed Maple, 35" scale (drop-tune-friendly, IME), and active EMG's. Doesn't get much more "metal" than that. Just ask Tom Araya.

as a matter of fact, I was thinking about the F series as well. Only Araya came third to my mind, after Steve Di Giorgio (Sadus/Death/Control Denied/Testament/Gordian Knot/Iced Earth/ you tell me) and Henkka 'Blacksmith' of Children of Bodom (their only guy who DOESN'T have a side project, ha!).

The drawback is, ESP/Edwards/GrassRoots/LTD is an overpriced brand. You probably could get a used ESP for $1200 from a japanese auction, Edwards (made in Japan closest to the ESP specs, but in a japanese factory, not ESP shop) for a bit under $1000, and I personally wouldn't care for a LTD (done by numerous no-name factories and shops everywhere in China, India, Indonesia, Korea). The LTD 600-1000 series being so and so, they are wayyyy overpriced. For the price of a chinese LTD I could easily get a great japanese instrument (or an american Carvin, Peavey, or a Kramer, Godin). It just doesn't pay. GrassRoots is about the same, only maybe a little better

You can probably get a used ESP in the US for much less, but then there is shipment to Malaysia. Thelowendshop.net was selling a glamouros Custom Shop ESP double P in pink with HSC for $900 I think. I would get it if I desided to buy a 4-string