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Old 11-24-2011, 07:57 PM
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I'm confused about the Bass VI. It's a baritone guitar, uses thinner strings than a bass, but thicker than a guitar, but can still get into bass territories?

What I have researched confuses me. Can someone explain to me?
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This should help you.
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It is not a baritone guitar, it's a six string short scale bass tuned E-e. A baritone guitar would be something like a 7 string, tuned to B
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It is not a baritone guitar, it's a six string short scale bass tuned E-e. A baritone guitar would be something like a 7 string, tuned to B
Thanks! So what's with the thin strings? I hear this can venture into guitar stuff. Is that what they do?
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I looked there. Helped a bit, but not much.
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Old 11-25-2011, 06:18 AM
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Tuned an octave below a guitar. Will sound like a short scale bass on the lower four strings. Harder to play with fingers due to string spacing

This is a video that shows one in action, sorry for the very mediocre guitar playing (not)

ALLAN HOLDSWORTH - SOFT MACHINE - YouTube
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John Lennon plays one on THE LONG AND WINDING ROAD and LET IT BE, watch it on youtube.
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John Lennon plays one on THE LONG AND WINDING ROAD and LET IT BE, watch it on youtube.
Also Helter Skelter, if I remember correctly.
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Tuned an octave below a guitar. Will sound like a short scale bass on the lower four strings. Harder to play with fingers due to string spacing

This is a video that shows one in action, sorry for the very mediocre guitar playing (not)

ALLAN HOLDSWORTH - SOFT MACHINE - YouTube
Thanks! I may have to pick up a copy from Rondo soon!
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Old 11-25-2011, 03:25 PM
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for some guitaristic Bass VI playing, theres a "Green Manalishi" solo by Peter Green on one of the Boston Tea Party Fleetwood Mac lives discs that is incredible.
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For a more current frame of reference, you might want to check out Rome by Danger Mouse and Daniel Luppi. They collaborated with Jack White, Norah Jones, and a number of the italian studio musicians who did the scoring work on many of Ennio Morricone's spaghetti western soundtracks. The Bass VI played very prominently in Morricone's work, and was well represented on the Rome record.

The instrument seems to lend itself far better to a pick technique. And it seems to be enjoying a bit more popularity these days. But amazingly enough Jack Bruce played a Bass VI with fingerstyle technique in the early days of Cream.
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Jack Bruce also played one in CREAM in the early days before his EB3. See Strange Brew clip on UTube.
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I checked out the Rondo site, as I was not aware anyone made a Bass VI type copy. I assume its this:

Agile Argus 630 Single Surf Green Extended Scale Guitar at RondoMusic.com

I notice that its says it is set up to intonate what look like Baritone strings, with the lowest as an 84. That would jive with a Baritone tuning, starting at B or A above the low E of a Bass. That could be an issue.

I have a CIJ Fender Jaguar Baritone, that was sold tuned like a Bass VI, but really is better in B-B or A-A baritone tuning, the scale is like 28.75 or something like that:

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They arent very thin really...

Common set E-E = .026 .035 .044 .056 .075 .095

Its like a light gauge E A D G with a B E added...
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Old 11-26-2011, 08:53 AM
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I used mine for both...

as a low tuned guitar
as a bass

It's al dependant on what amplifier you use. Do you play the VI in a Vox AC30 or a Twin Reverb, it will sound a lot more "twangy" than when you play in in an Ampeg SVT.

Brian Auger live at the Jazz Bilzen Festival, 1969 - YouTube
Here you can see the bassplayer of Brian Auger playing bass on a VI.
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Old 11-27-2011, 08:12 PM
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I checked out the Rondo site, as I was not aware anyone made a Bass VI type copy. I assume its this:

Agile Argus 630 Single Surf Green Extended Scale Guitar at RondoMusic.com

I notice that its says it is set up to intonate what look like Baritone strings, with the lowest as an 84. That would jive with a Baritone tuning, starting at B or A above the low E of a Bass. That could be an issue.

I have a CIJ Fender Jaguar Baritone, that was sold tuned like a Bass VI, but really is better in B-B or A-A baritone tuning, the scale is like 28.75 or something like that:
Is http://www.rondomusic.com/arguslpb.html
not it?
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thats also it
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