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08-19-2010, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by doctorpunch  I was GASing for a Jazz for about a year until I picked a MIM up last week, used, $300.
I slapped a set of SD QP's on it and .105 strings tuned to c#. Thus far, the tone is outstanding!
And regarding the MIM vs. Squier debate...they sound nothing alike IMO. The Squier sounds airy and weak. | What about a MIM Squier? How do they compare in your world of you?  Maybe turn on the Squier before making your comparison.
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08-19-2010, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by thehiros | The bass sounds like **** in that video  |
08-19-2010, 03:31 PM
| | | | Bryan Beller(steve vai/dethklok) runs a metal column in bass player mag. he prefers/ suggests using a j bass for metal. and i know most of you think dethklok isnt really metal, but if youve seen them live, you know its metal.
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08-19-2010, 03:40 PM
| | | | The only band useing fender jazz for bass in that overall genre that I really like is Opeth. I think overall that P and soapbar pups work better for that. But of course there are diff exceptions such as Opeth example. Its mainly about what sound char most benefits the player and his playing in the mix with the rest of the songs instruments going. Picking the right J pups along with right preamp will make a big difference for that imo. Id say try upgrading the pups and possibly adding a preamp of choice could be best choice for you since you otherwise really like your jazz bass.
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08-19-2010, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by NKBassman The bass sounds like **** in that video |
I'm assuming by "****" you mean either: pimp or phat.
Both of which are acceptable - yet none are worthy. 
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08-19-2010, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NKBassman The bass sounds like **** in that video | There's bass in that? Sorry, I was stuck on 2:30 of the clip. 
This clip is sweet too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDSd_...eature=related
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08-19-2010, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by peledog There's bass in that? Sorry, I was stuck on 2:30 of the clip. [/url] | Dude, Awesome! |
08-23-2010, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by phillipkregg Tim Commerford doesn't seem to have a problem with either maple or rosewood.
If it's good enough for Rage it's good enough for you.   | Does anyone know for sure if he's using active or passive p'ups? I know the jazz he's playing doesn't have active stock, but I'm pretty sure he upgraded them himself. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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08-23-2010, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by essentre Does anyone know for sure if he's using active or passive p'ups? I know the jazz he's playing doesn't have active stock, but I'm pretty sure he upgraded them himself. Any help would be greatly appreciated! | There is probably not a way to know for sure. Tim's very secretive about his tone. He said in an interview once that he tells his bass and amp techs to never tell specifically what they do to his stuff.
He even puts pedals on his effects board that he never actually uses just to throw people off-track!
All anyone really knows is that he "hand-winds" his pickups. Whether he actually does that, or what kind of wire he uses or how many wraps is anyones guess.
You could try emailing the folks at Lakland and see if they'll talk - but I'm sure they know better.
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08-23-2010, 11:29 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Falls Church, VA | | | The Fender (or Squire) Jazz is a great bass to be sure. However, the Precision (particularly with a maple neck & roundwounds and played through some variant of the Ampeg SVT circuit) is the quintessential rock setup, IMHO. Assuming you like it, keep your Squire Jazz and get one of the Chinese made "Vintage Vibe" series Precisions. I've played a number of them @ GC and the quality on most of the ones I've played is remarkable given their price point. |
08-23-2010, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by sgtpepper It's just your taste. If you like Fender J's get a Fender J. And of course there's a huge difference between a Squier and a Fender MIM. Eventually you'll want to upgrade to a better Bass and IMO it's now. Don't put new pups on your Squier. It will be like putting Toyo Tires on your Ford Taurus. | I don't agree.
with the right pickups- you're putting toyo's (I'm a falken fan myself) on a taurus SHO
my first bass was a squier (affinity even) and I love it even more now that it's got a set of Antiquity II's and a badass bridge |
08-23-2010, 06:18 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Auckland NZ | | | A Jazz will work for rock and metal as well as any other bass, Judas Priest, Led Zep, is all the prove you need, (also should mention the bassists that have used Jazz copies such as Jason Newstead). I'm also a fan of the stock MIM pups and I think you can get a lot of the tones that would work for modern metal sounds if you have a decent amp. |
08-23-2010, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by phillipkregg If it's good enough for Rage it's good enough for you. | ^^ My new favorite quote....
I agree with different pups. Maybe even some different strings. I for one am a D'Addario Chromes flat fan. The first week ish sucks with them until the overtones die out. Then they are great for a LONG time.
Now mind you, I'm not a J fan. I prefer P/J configurations or soapbars. P/J pups wide open with some flats.....slight overdrive(Hardwire Tube Overdrive)..... heaven..
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08-23-2010, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by darkstorm The only band useing fender jazz for bass in that overall genre that I really like is Opeth. I think overall that P and soapbar pups work better for that. But of course there are diff exceptions such as Opeth example. Its mainly about what sound char most benefits the player and his playing in the mix with the rest of the songs instruments going. Picking the right J pups along with right preamp will make a big difference for that imo. Id say try upgrading the pups and possibly adding a preamp of choice could be best choice for you since you otherwise really like your jazz bass. | +1
The J is good for metal and not-so-metal moments too! 
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08-23-2010, 07:02 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Highland, CA | | A jazz bass works for anything. For Metal get a black one. 
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08-23-2010, 09:44 PM
| | | | Get a Jackson C20 Concert bass. P/J style pickups, the ones I've sold have had excellent sustain (I work at a music store, I don't just buy and sell 'em!) and they don't break the bank. 4 string with 24 frets, super slim neck and comfy body and you're away to the races.
Plus will look like "teh Metuhl" \m/ .
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08-24-2010, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by srxplayer A jazz bass works for anything. For Metal get a black one. | Perfect solution! lol
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08-24-2010, 03:42 PM
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08-24-2010, 04:19 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ferndale, Michigan USA | | | I'm not changing my pups, but I have a Geddy. And I agree with the OP, stay passive, it's the true Jazz Bass sound. Plus, it's more growly.
I also agree a maple fret board is the way to go. You can roll off the bridge pup to give you some P like honk. Or you can run both pups full on to give you some thick, textured, tone.
I really think the new MIM Jazz basses with the maple fretboard are great. I played one just after taking my Geddy home. And if I just hadn't bought a new bass, I would have got it. The stock pups sounded fine to me. Sure you could change them I guess. I would just buy a bass that sounds good from the get go. Maybe look into used? |
08-24-2010, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by essentre Does anyone know for sure if he's using active or passive p'ups? I know the jazz he's playing doesn't have active stock, but I'm pretty sure he upgraded them himself. Any help would be greatly appreciated! | he has always professed his dislike of active electronics, so I would be surprised. But of course people change... | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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