Fender modern player jazz bass VS Squier vintage modified jaguar bass
So, yesterday i posted a topic about a first bass player, on wich bass to get to achieve some good gothic/post-rock/alternative sounds like these:
Sisters of Mercy
Member Wallace320 kindly replyed, as suggesting the Jazz as a better all around bass between a Precision.
So, to confuse things more, i felt in love with these 2 "cheap" ones:
fender modern player jazz bass
squier vintage modified jaguar bass
As being my first bass, being a guitar player, and just to want to have a bass for fun, i actually realized i could not spend that much (the Rickenbacker would then be out of equation).
The Fender modern player jazz and the Squier vintage modified jaguar are cheap enough and i love the looks.
But what do you think? What would be a better bass to get the sounds i'm after? And forgeting the sounds i'm after, based on your experience, what do you think it's a better build/speced bass?
Here I am again
Don't kick me out for my insistence
I don't like that much modern player Jazz just because, as many other over here on TB, we tend IME to consider "cheap basses", for what does it mean, as mod/customizing/creative platforms
Well... modern player Jazz sport a very "difficult" (in the sense of "to swap out") pair of dual coils: e.g. only Peavey's VFL active soapbars fit in...
Other than that, all you need in that bass (very modern with its transblack finish indeed) is a Hipshot bass extender, if you ever mind
Those pickups are PERFECT for what we were yesterday talkin' about (a few effects to be added to your "plot") its sound is full and consistent (maybe not so articulated) and the whole tonal palette is left to your likings
Squier VM Jaguar is a nothin'-more-than-good-lookin' "P/J"
It has an agathis body, so very brilliant and pleasant in the very first place, but then hard to be heard cuttin' thru a so densely mixed up sound like the ones you pointed
So, while MIC modern player stays a Fender Jazz bass with an alder body and a very proficient himass bridge, Squier VM Jaguar is:
- a Squier;
- a Jaguar;
- an agathis body
hardly (overly cheap) resellin' item.
If you ever like a Jaguar, stay "modern player" series with the black/maple only, Geddy Leeish exemplar.
get a used mij jaguar, they are way more versatile and the craftsmanship is excellent
i use my guitarists for shoegaze, alternative, punk, and space rock
they have jazz pickups and can go active/passive
I think neither bass will sound like what you're looking for....
The Modern Player has humbuckers, which will be a bit too fat & mellow for that very bright bass tone.
The Squier Jaguar P/J has a P tone, and it's gonna sound pretty different.
A normal Jazz Bass is gonna get you closer, but it's still not as crisp as the sounds you posted. My suggestion is you get an active jazz bass of some sort in that price range. Squier makes one since you're already thinking Fender/Squier:
Retails for $300 in the USA. Also, the bass needs to be played with a pick for that tone.
Is the IV as good as the V everyone raves about?
I own both and I'd pick the MP Jazz over the VM Jag, anytime. The only thing I like more on the Squier is the P-pickup, but the neck humbucker on the Jazz can get close enough for me.
I have used the Jaguar extensively for recording and gigging, and its a great instrument, but the Jazz is much better for me
Incidentally, the 2013 Modern Player Jazz's do have humbuckers, but they also have a coil tap function, so you can use any combination of humbuckers and singlecoils. There's a very wide tonal range there.
I think for the sound you're going for, the Epiphone Thunderbird Goth would be a good choice and is in the same price range as the 2 you mentioned.
But are you shure the MP i linked to, is able to coil tap? I can't find that mentioned on Fender site... Or maybe it's a newer model...
And what about the Squier Deluxe Active IV? As good as the V that has so much love over here?
Ah I can't check the link on my phone, yeah its only the new ones. The model with 4 knobs, and the jack on the side of the body not on the control plate, is the one that can coil tap
I owned a vm jag and a mp jag, and now own a mp jazz. The squier is the brightest of the three, the mp jag was a bit more tame and had a very beautiful neck but was chunky. The mp jazz bass blows both jags away, in versitility, comfort, quality fit and finish, balance etc. The mp jazz is an outstanding bass, play one for yourself, you will be amazed!
For those sounds, between those two basses, I would definitely go with the Modern Player. More tonal variety because of the ability to make the pickups sound like jazz single coils as noted by Mssr. Scorpio (of globe corp?):
I've got a 4 string version of the new model. Pure impulse buy, had no plans of buying a bass until I played it in my local store, and I haven't regretted it since. It works so well for me that I'm considering picking up one in black as a backup.
Obviously your experience may vary, but I'd definitely try one out
I've got last year's version of a Modern Player. It is a darker, sometimes even farty sound, on the E string at least. But you can make upgrades to it that make a difference. Coil tapping would be one thing, though that'd require more modification than I like to do. I tried a Geddy Lee maple neck on it, and it lightened up the tone considerably. I quite liked it like that and may stick with it in the end.
I have never tried the other options. I'd like to hear how the coil tapping affects the sound of the Modern Player.
I don't want to muddy the waters too much, but after listening to the OP's sound clips, I feel I should throw out another "outside the box" suggestion. Specifically, a Fender Blacktop Jazz.
It's got an incredibly aggressive tone with no shortage of "growl", especially when using a pick. Think of it as a Jazz bass on the verge of "'roid rage". Also, if you ever want to indulge in a more classic Precision sound, you need only turn down/zero-out the bridge pickup.
It is a bit more expensive than the Modern Player, but not by too much. I don't know what your budget is, but being a 'Made In Mexico/MIM' model, it's nowhere near the aforementioned Rickenbacker's cost.
And what about the Squier Deluxe Active IV? As good as the V that has so much love over here? Or the sweet spot in terms of quality/value is really the V version?
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