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11-24-2012, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by basses55  I was at the 48th st Sam Ash less than a few weeks ago and played the ES5. I did mention to the guy the list price of ES5s coming out of the Fodera shop ...which is also the same as the dealers...quite a bit less than what was on the tag. I'm pretty sure he said something to the affect that he would match any price. They are just not up to snuff on Fodera pricing etc. (for some reason).
So I would NOT give up checking out or even buying that ES5 at Sam Ash as most likely if you point them to the Fodera site and any other Fodera dealer they will see what the should be selling it for. Also, I'm not sure that Fodera would like them to be selling their Standards for more than they do.
BTW, it was a nice one.... and the few I've checked out so far have been very consistant. | Do you want my guess? You do? Cool. Fodera's dealer margins are thinner than those of most other brands. Someone in Sam Ash's accounting department probably looked at what they paid for the bass and slapped their usual markup on it, not realizing you can buy the bass for $5,750 at Fodera or any of their dealers.
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11-24-2012, 04:46 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NY/NJ Metro Area | | Got the chance to play an Emperor II today... Mahogany body, Morado board. To be quite honest, I didnt connect. It didnt have that immediate snap and punch I guess Im so used to out of my J's.
Perhaps it was the NT desigh vs. Bolt on? Dual coils when Im used to the response from singles? Mahogany vs. a more snapy body likeAsh? All of the above?
Dunno... but I wasnt crazy about it  I wanted to love it too...
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11-24-2012, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Modern Growl Got the chance to play an Emperor II today... Mahogany body, Morado board. To be quite honest, I didnt connect. It didnt have that immediate snap and punch I guess Im so used to out of my J's.
Perhaps it was the NT desigh vs. Bolt on? Dual coils when Im used to the response from singles? Mahogany vs. a more snapy body likeAsh? All of the above?
Dunno... but I wasnt crazy about it I wanted to love it too... | Probably all of the above. I don't think I'd've been looking for a J tone out of an Emperor II, especially with those specs. I'm not much of a single-cut guy, either.
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11-24-2012, 05:22 PM
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11-24-2012, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Modern Growl Got the chance to play an Emperor II today... Mahogany body, Morado board. To be quite honest, I didnt connect. It didnt have that immediate snap and punch I guess Im so used to out of my J's.
Perhaps it was the NT desigh vs. Bolt on? Dual coils when Im used to the response from singles? Mahogany vs. a more snapy body likeAsh? All of the above?
Dunno... but I wasnt crazy about it I wanted to love it too... | I love many Foderas, I hate most (all?) J basses. There might be a connection 
That spec will not sound like anything near a J bass. It is "all of the above". That spec will be pretty damn mellow if you're used to an ash/maple bolt-on JJ setup.
Foderas are not for everyone - it really depends on what sound you're looking for and what playability aspects you want. Also, since most Foderas are built to a custom spec, a particular bass likely may not speak to you. I've played a few Foderas that didn't really send me. Heck, I've owned a few that I sold, so obviously I wasn't in love with them. Wood and metal put together by human hands will always have some variability, especially when you factor in custom options.
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11-24-2012, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Steveman The $9999 price was probably just there as a tourist trap. That Sam Ash is located in Time Square afterall... | 48th St. is within walking distance of Times Square, but it isn't in Times Square.
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11-24-2012, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by gkbass13 I still have never connected with a mahogany body either. Just not my thing. | I've been buying some mahogany basses lately. Love 'em.    
And an old one I have laying around. 
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11-25-2012, 12:36 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Washington Township, NJ | | My recent addition, Monarch Elite, Alder Body w/ Alder tone block and Curly Walnut top. Indian Rosewood board, Vintage size frets and Fodera Dual Coils. It started out as an Imperial, but I decided that I really liked the compact Monarch shape more, even though I loved the feel of playing an Imperial (I hardly ever would actually look at it, right? Ha!). This replaced my '05 Monarch with the EMG P/ Js. This is the sound I was looking for. Plays like a dream and the range of tones from the new preamp is amazing. Vinny, Joey, and Jason should get the Nobel Prize. I went for the semi-hollow option, it came in at 8lb, 4.2oz! SWEET!!!! Hey, I like light basses. It goes well with my other three, but since it arrived the second week of October, I haven't taken one of the others out of their cases. DOH!! They're very jealous, I hear them grumbling late at night. Here's the "Newborn" link: http://www.fodera.com/Main/NewBornDetails.aspx?FeaturedItemID=505
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11-25-2012, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Munjibunga | Sweet looking 24 Fret on the bottom.
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11-25-2012, 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by rmayer My recent addition, Monarch Elite, Alder Body w/ Alder tone block and Curly Walnut top. Indian Rosewood board, Vintage size frets and Fodera Dual Coils. It started out as an Imperial, but I decided that I really liked the compact Monarch shape more, even though I loved the feel of playing an Imperial (I hardly ever would actually look at it, right? Ha!). This replaced my '05 Monarch with the EMG P/ Js. This is the sound I was looking for. Plays like a dream and the range of tones from the new preamp is amazing. Vinny, Joey, and Jason should get the Nobel Prize. I went for the semi-hollow option, it came in at 8lb, 4.2oz! SWEET!!!! Hey, I like light basses. It goes well with my other three, but since it arrived the second week of October, I haven't taken one of the others out of their cases. DOH!! They're very jealous, I hear them grumbling late at night. Here's the "Newborn" link: http://www.fodera.com/Main/NewBornDe...uredItemID=505 | That's a great looking bass. Congrats
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11-25-2012, 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by rmayer Sweet looking 24 Fret on the bottom. | It's one of the twenty-five 25th Anniversary instruments Roger made. There's a bit of a story behind that one, but we shouldn't be talking about it in the Fodera thread.
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11-25-2012, 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by rmayer My recent addition, Monarch Elite, Alder Body w/ Alder tone block and Curly Walnut top. Indian Rosewood board, Vintage size frets and Fodera Dual Coils. It started out as an Imperial, but I decided that I really liked the compact Monarch shape more, even though I loved the feel of playing an Imperial (I hardly ever would actually look at it, right? Ha!). This replaced my '05 Monarch with the EMG P/ Js. This is the sound I was looking for. Plays like a dream and the range of tones from the new preamp is amazing. Vinny, Joey, and Jason should get the Nobel Prize. I went for the semi-hollow option, it came in at 8lb, 4.2oz! SWEET!!!! Hey, I like light basses. It goes well with my other three, but since it arrived the second week of October, I haven't taken one of the others out of their cases. DOH!! They're very jealous, I hear them grumbling late at night. Here's the "Newborn" link: http://www.fodera.com/Main/NewBornDetails.aspx?FeaturedItemID=505 | That top is breathtaking. Cool bass.
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11-25-2012, 06:18 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NY/NJ Metro Area | | Im still pondering what a bolt on ash/morado Monarch (or Emperor) would sound like. Anyone in the NJ/NY area have one I could check out? I can bring any bass in my current stable for you to check out as well 
Getting back to the Fodera vs. MTD thing... do you guys feel a Fodera has a more "focused" sound? I know Michael's designs are to provide the widest spectrjm of sounds possible. Me, I like a more focused mid punch.
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11-25-2012, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Modern Growl Getting back to the Fodera vs. MTD thing... do you guys feel a Fodera has a more "focused" sound? I know Michael's designs are to provide the widest spectrjm of sounds possible. Me, I like a more focused mid punch. | I think it depends on the individual instrument.
Instruments from both can sound real focused.
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11-25-2012, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Munjibunga That top is breathtaking. Cool bass. | That's considered a "standard", non-surcharge top too. Just the "solid top" option. It took three trips to the shop to decide on this one. Jason and company were the best, I'm sure they were getting sick of seeing me again. One of the benefits of only living a state away from the greatest luthiers in the world, in my opinion.
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11-25-2012, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Munjibunga | I second that. I love the mahogany sound.
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11-25-2012, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rmayer That's considered a "standard", non-surcharge top too. Just the "solid top" option. It took three trips to the shop to decide on this one. Jason and company were the best, I'm sure they were getting sick of seeing me again. One of the benefits of only living a state away from the greatest luthiers in the world, in my opinion. | I had to bother Jason by email. I vacillated a lot on my Emperor, not quite as much on the Viceroy.
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11-25-2012, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Modern Growl Got the chance to play an Emperor II today... Mahogany body, Morado board. To be quite honest, I didnt connect. It didnt have that immediate snap and punch I guess Im so used to out of my J's.
Perhaps it was the NT desigh vs. Bolt on? Dual coils when Im used to the response from singles? Mahogany vs. a more snapy body likeAsh? All of the above?
Dunno... but I wasnt crazy about it I wanted to love it too... |
How were the ergonomics? |
11-25-2012, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by nuwavedc How were the ergonomics? | Felt great. Wish the back of the neck was satin, but otherwise it felt great.
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11-25-2012, 05:54 PM
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Regarding tone, I certainly think Fodera's generally have a focused sound but depends on your definition. Also, why morado? I vastly prefer ebony fingerboards, but that is a personal bias. Also, I do find Foderas to be more flexible than MTDs, but the MTDs I've played have all had the same top-end sizzle tone that I could not dial out of them. To me they have their own distinct sound, at least the half dozen or so I've played over the years. But again, different set of hands and ears can give different results.
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