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Old 12-12-2012, 05:34 AM
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Now i am really thinking hard if i should use Ash body for maple FB and not walnut after what i read....
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:23 AM
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:30 AM
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:34 AM
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:34 AM
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Now i am really thinking hard if i should use Ash body for maple FB and not walnut after what i read....
Depends on the sound you're after. And there are other variables (scale length, neck joint, pups, technique, etc). It is hard to pin down a single aspect and say that is going to be the make or break feature. That said, I have found that ebony fingerboards tend to have a particular tone, so if you want that, it can be an important factor. Most all of it comes down to personal taste though, and remember that there is some variability in wood within a certain type so for instance not every piece of ash sounds the same.
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:37 AM
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This was all before my time and the records back then are not the best, so, this is from Joey's memory (which happens to generally be amazing!)...

The first chambered instrument that we built was in the late 1980's...it was NOT for AJ. As a matter of fact, the first of AJ's basses that was chambered was #10 -- his current Presentation.

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Curiosity question for Jason: The first Fodera that I'm aware of that was chambered would have been the first Presentation made for Anthony Jackson (i.e #7). Was that in fact the first chambered bass that Fodera made? If not, what was and when?

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Old 12-12-2012, 09:39 AM
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:50 AM
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Just my preference, I don't like maple fretboards. Maybe because I never heard them live, only via youtube. I saw the pink ivory fretboard, that is an exotic piece of craftsmanship. I prefer ebony, but that is all i know. Im sure I can be pursuaded otherwise, but it will take some testing and experimenting.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:27 AM
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This was all before my time and the records back then are not the best, so, this is from Joey's memory (which happens to generally be amazing!)...

The first chambered instrument that we built was in the late 1980's...it was NOT for AJ. As a matter of fact, the first of AJ's basses that was chambered was #10 -- his current Presentation.

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really? late 80s? wow, cause i had asked them about something like that around then and they didn't seem so sure. i was under the impression that matt garrison was the first to have a chambered body, but that would be later than the late 80s.
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really? late 80s? wow, cause i had asked them about something like that around then and they didn't seem so sure. i was under the impression that matt garrison was the first to have a chambered body, but that would be later than the late 80s.
I don't think Matt Garrison's basses are chambered
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Old 12-12-2012, 11:14 AM
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dunno, i fel like that's what joey told me when he said that they made one, but it would've been a while ago and i might've misremembered the conversation. (and, he might have had one and not have one any longer . . . )

in any event, i'm more surprised by the late 80s thing than anything else.
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Old 12-12-2012, 11:20 AM
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yeah man.. I love the top.. very cool
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:28 PM
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It might have been as late as 1990-1991, but definitely no later than 1993 where there is a written record of a semi-hollow bass. As I've said, the recods back in those days were pretty "thin."

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really? late 80s? wow, cause i had asked them about something like that around then and they didn't seem so sure. i was under the impression that matt garrison was the first to have a chambered body, but that would be later than the late 80s.
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:26 PM
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It might have been as late as 1990-1991, but definitely no later than 1993 where there is a written record of a semi-hollow bass. As I've said, the recods back in those days were pretty "thin."
ha. they held out on me, cause i *really* wanted one, so much so that i ended up getting some leduc u-basses in 1995 . . .

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Old 12-12-2012, 11:12 PM
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I received my YYS #104 last week on Thursday. It is even nicer than I remember ( I was at the NAMM show when you unveiled the YYS and presented Vic his bass, which he let me try out. ) Thank you to all of the shop employees for such excellent work and craftmanship. It plays like a dream.

It's a great addition to my 83 classic Monarch. Thanks again so much.
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Old 12-13-2012, 12:15 AM
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For me that's surprising. A solid top adds a thick part of wood between the bridge and the remaining parts - either the through-neck or the body core. Therefore I expected that this has an impact how the string vibrations are transferred into the body and from there resonating back to the strings... like a wooden filter...

Additionally for me the structure and amount of laminates in general has an impact on the sound - not only in the neck. Even the same wood laminated together will sound different against a one-piece.

I know from another well-known US luthier that he is convinced that the top wood - even NON-solid - has more tonal impact than the body wings. Not sure about that, but virtually ZERO impact ? I would be less surprised if there are (very very subtle) differences....

Basically all these differences are below the differences coming from environment, fingers, string sets, etc. So it won't be possible to isolate and generalize them.

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Old 12-13-2012, 12:21 AM
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hey mr bassman_de, you we asking. about those bart soapbars.


you had a picture of a bass with them. can you tell me that was? looked like a fodera 6-string?
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:56 AM
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For me that's surprising. A solid top adds a thick part of wood between the bridge and the remaining parts - either the through-neck or the body core. Therefore I expected that this has an impact how the string vibrations are transferred into the body and from there resonating back to the strings... like a wooden filter...

Additionally for me the structure and amount of laminates in general has an impact on the sound - not only in the neck. Even the same wood laminated together will sound different against a one-piece.

I know from another well-known US luthier that he is convinced that the top wood - even NON-solid - has more tonal impact than the body wings. Not sure about that, but virtually ZERO impact ? I would be less surprised if there are (very very subtle) differences....

Basically all these differences are below the differences coming from environment, fingers, string sets, etc. So it won't be possible to isolate and generalize them.

As always - I might be wrong ...
I suspect that, say, a buckeye burl top will have a different effect on tone from, say, a maple top. Those woods have very different physical characteristics and it's hard for me to imagine that their influence on tone isn't at least audible.
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