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dudi8 02-04-2013 06:19 AM

Framus S-380 Jaco Pastorius
 
Hi!
has anyone heard or tried this bass? is it worth anything??

Thanks!

Roy Vogt 02-04-2013 06:34 AM

Here's a couple of pages. It's actually one defretted Jazz bass copy that Jaco used on a mid-80s recording:
http://www.framus-vintage.de/modules...php?katID=4687
http://www.framus-vintage.de/modules...ellID=54&cl=EN

dudi8 02-04-2013 07:02 AM

yeah i found it also, but i was wandering on personal experience... im thinking of buying one..

Roy Vogt 02-04-2013 07:56 AM

Are they currently in production?

dudi8 02-04-2013 10:09 AM

no its a deal on one from 1976

dudi8 02-04-2013 02:37 PM

and does it worth a 1000 euros? :)

Roy Vogt 02-04-2013 03:18 PM

I don't know but you can buy a lot of nice German fretless basses for 1000 euros .

Roy Vogt 02-04-2013 03:23 PM

Sandberg, Fame (Baphomet series), Warwick, Human Base and Hotwire all make nice fretlesses you might be able to find used for around that. It's essentially a Fender Jazz copy.

dudi8 02-04-2013 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roy Vogt (Post 13829424)
Sandberg, Fame (Baphomet series), Warwick, Human Base and Hotwire all make nice fretlesses you might be able to find used for around that. It's essentially a Fender Jazz copy.

the bephomet series is any good?

Roy Vogt 02-04-2013 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudi8 (Post 13829667)
the bephomet series is any good?

As far as I know, they are and they're competitive new at about 1000 Euro.
http://www.musicstore.de/en_EN/EUR/B...Yr46ZR_zw4mmk=
http://www.musicstore.de/en_EN/EUR/B...BAS0001839-000
http://www.musicstore.de/is-bin/INTE...rerName%3DFame

2meterbassman 02-04-2013 09:49 PM

Hi,

as I told in here some months ago:
I played that bass in the Framus museum in germany.
Not one of those - but that special original bass, that's me with it:


Well, it was ok, but not very easy to play.
Huge string height.
Very slim neck.
Sounded (without amplifier) ok, but no soundmonster.

But it was special to play an instrument, the master once played...

If it isn't the original Jaco Framus bass - 1.000 Euros are too much for it.
Buy a used Fender/US Jazz Bass - it's more worth the money. A lot.

Greetz

Roy Vogt 02-05-2013 04:40 AM

Thanks for posting! Although I have gone to some Messe Shows in Frankfurt for Hotwire Basses and toured there some, it's been awhile since I have been there. If the OP is going for a Jazz Bass/ Jaco sound the Fender is a good idea, particularly with a rosewood fingerboard that he can have a luthier defret and cover with some sort of epoxy material. Jaco could get an amazing sound out of practically any bass, so I'm not surprised it's just "ok".

2meterbassman 02-05-2013 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roy Vogt (Post 13831946)
Thanks for posting! Although I have gone to some Messe Shows in Frankfurt for Hotwire Basses and toured there some, it's been awhile since I have been there. If the OP is going for a Jazz Bass/ Jaco sound the Fender is a good idea, particularly with a rosewood fingerboard that he can have a luthier defret and cover with some sort of epoxy material. Jaco could get an amazing sound out of practically any bass, so I'm not surprised it's just "ok".

And I red some years ago, that his BOD was hard to play, too (before it was restored):
- extreme string height
- very slim neck

Maybe it's one of the secrets, that he used this extreme string height. When I played my old Ibanez Jazz Bass (defretted, Epoxy on fretboard), the string height was huge, too - and it had - played on bridge pu - a jaco style sound.
But only Jaco stlye - because the main part of the sound came out of his hands...

Greetz


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